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Continuing... I’ve always been fascinated by the German big band date on 18-Dec-1957 in Stuttgart, with the Erwin Lehn Orchestra — which has FOOTAGE!! What else is known about it? — the circumstances of how it came about, and really anything else about it — ??? Clips have been used in one or two Miles documentaries over the years, and I remember first seeing maybe a minute of this footage back in collage around 1992. Here’s the session details: http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/Sessions.aspx?s=571218 First, here’s video of the full-length cut of “Walkin” (which at 3:30 total, is more than a minute longer than what’s listed on Peter Losin’s site) — but I’m not sure if video of any of the other tunes are available online anywhere (but not on YouTube, far as I can tell). As I said, I think the first time I ever saw any footage from this, was a part of a French(?) Miles documentary I got a 3rd or 4th generation VHS dub of back in around ‘92. Not sure this is it, but the footage is sure close in any case. And I just found this next one too -- AUDIO ONLY -- which appears to have more/most(?) of “Yesterdays” and a wonderful “Round Midnight”. Maybe this is the entire thing, come to think of it -- I haven't had the chance to listen all the way through, but skipping around and looking at the individual track times, this might be everything: And just googling around some more, and the complete session seems to possibly be as follows… https://themidnightcafe.org/2022/07/14/miles-davis-stuttgart-germany-12-18-57/ I'll cut-n-paste all that here too, just for posterity... Miles Davis – Stuttgart, Germany (12/18/57) Posted on July 14, 2022 by Mat Brewster Erwin Lehn Orchestra with Miles Davis December 18, 1957 (6 items; TT = 13:27) Beethovensaal, Stuttgart (Germany) S¸ddeutscher Rundfunk (SDR) TV broadcast (B-) Miles Davis (tpt); Horst Jankowski (p); Peter Witte (b); Hermann Mutschler (d) 1 Yesterdays (J. Kern-O. Harbach) 2:36 Splice in Davis solo at 0:50 2 ‘Round Midnight (B. Hanighen-C. Williams-T. Monk) 4:45 3 Walkin’ (rehearsal) (R. Carpenter) 0:55 With voiceover: Unknown announcer (0:06-0:21), RenÈ Urtreger’s wife talking about Davis’s 1957 visit to Europe (0:21-0:55) 4 Walkin’ (fragment) (R. Carpenter) 1:56 With voiceover: Mrs. Urtreger continues (1:35-1:56) 5 Walkin’ (fragment) (R. Carpenter) 0:58 With voiceover: Unknown announcer (0:53-0:58) 6 Walkin’ (incomplete) (R. Carpenter) 2:17 Present here are 1,2 and 6 1 Yesterdays CD: Jazz Unlimited JUCD 2050, Storyville STA 130467 2 ‘Round Midnight CD: Jazz Unlimited JUCD 2050, Storyville STA 130467 3 Walkin’ (rehearsal) Video: Treffpunkt Jazz 4 Walkin’ (fragment) Video: Treffpunkt Jazz 5 Walkin’ (fragment) Video: Treffpunkt Jazz 6 Walkin’ (incomplete) CD: Jazz Unlimited JUCD 2050, Storyville STA 130467 This concert was scheduled at the end of Davis’s European sojourn. It was broadcast on SDR-TV’s Treffpunkt Jazz. There is a lot of overlap among the fragments of “Walkin'” listed above. None is close to complete, and even when pieced together we have just an opening chorus and some of Davis’s solo. Listed in the SWR Stuttgart archives are the following titles: Probe (rehearsal) (Davis, Jankowski + Erwin Lehn Orchestra) (5:55) Tune Up (Davis + Jankowski Trio) (3:35) But Not for Me (Davis + Jankowski Trio) (3:00) Yesterdays (Davis + Jankowski Trio) (2:30) Bags’ Groove (Davis + Jankowski Trio) (3:15) ‘Round Midnight (Davis + Orchestra) (4:41) Walkin’ (Davis + Orchestra) (2:53) My Funny Valentine (Davis + Orchestra) (2:45) Several of these titles are lost. Additional titles were performed by the S¸dfunk-Tanzorchester conducted by Erwin Lehn, and the Johannes Rediske Quintet with Ingrid Werner (voc). Davis returned to the U.S. in late December, and a sextet with Coltrane, Cannonball Adderley, Garland, Chambers, and Jones began a two-week engagement at Birdland (January 2-15, 1958). Thanks to Alexander Keth for the details of what’s in the Stuttgart archive.
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Miles played with Urtreger’s quartet a handful of times, mostly in France, but at least once in the Netherlands too. These are just the dates for which recorded excerpts exist (perhaps there were one or two other appearances? — couldn't be many, given the short window of possible dates). November 30, 1957 Olympia Theatre - Paris, France René Urtreger Quartet with Miles Davis December 1957 Unknown venue - Unknown city, France René Urtreger Quartet with Miles Davis December 4-5, 1957 Le Poste Parisien Studio - Paris, France René Urtreger Quartet with Miles Davis December 7, 1957 Buttes Chaumont Studio - Paris, France René Urtreger Quartet with Miles Davis December 8, 1957 Concertgebouw - Amsterdam, The Netherlands René Urtreger Quartet with Miles Davis December 18, 1957 Beethovensaal - Stuttgart, Germany Erwin Lehn Orchestra Then less than two weeks later, he also appeared in Stuttgart with the Erwin Lehn Orchestra (big band) — and that’s included that in my cut-n-past above. This is all from Peter Losin’s wonderful site (select the 1950’s from the drop-down list at the link below to see the entire decade, with links to each session/live-entry). http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/Sessions.aspx NOTE: The blue color of the links didn’t come over, but that grid right above does have clickable URL’s for each live date — the underlined locations in the second column.
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Samples of every track, all in one video…
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This seems(?) to be all that circulated previously, iirc. About 37 minutes:
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I just tried to Google “Santana Trans” — got that far typing, and it suggested these as the top search matches… Check out Santana Transmissions! https://yelp.to/fBouLedRYk https://www.zoominfo.com/c/santana-transmission/1141659779 https://www.groupon.com/biz/orlando/santana-transmissions etc…
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Knew about ‘Jazz’ — but sure never heard of ‘Booty’. Jazz: https://www.discogs.com/release/4866277-Harold-Land-Bobby-Hutcherson-Blue-Mitchell-Joe-Sample-Stanley-Clarke-Freddy-Robinson-Hadley-Caliman- Booty: https://www.discogs.com/release/2769483-Blue-Mitchell-Roy-Haynes-Charles-Kynard-Charles-Williams-Booty
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This isn’t quite on topic, but close… I very recently picked up the two Land/Hutcherson 1971 Mainstream dates, New Shade of Blue and Chroma (Burn) — and I have to say they are both just marvelous. AND, the CD of New Shade even had a 9-minute bonus track (a Mainstream date over 50 minutes long? — unprecedented!!). In fact, I was really blown away by both these dates — which I found both to be FAR superior to Land’s one other Mainstream date, Damisi — which didn’t include Hutcherson. I first heard Damisi 15+ years ago, wasn’t impressed — so I never pursued the other two. But I’m damn glad I finally picked them up just a couple months ago. Back on topic, I don’t have Peace Maker — but have streamed it a number of times over the years. It’s ‘nice’ — but I remember it being (mostly?) more placid than almost all the other Land/Hutcherson collaborations. I probably would have snagged one years ago if I’d ever had the chance for $10 or $12 — but I’ve only ever seen it for $25 or more, which for a disc that’s less than 35 minutes (and a kinda sleepier one at that), I just couldn’t bring myself to pay top dollar for.
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Heard the Jayhawks last night here in DC (Alexandria, VA) in a basic, old-school sort of dinner club (which makes it sound ‘nicer’ than it was, but it was table seating in a good-size room, with very decent if not at all fancy food) — and it was a lovely night. We’d go back and hear them again in a year or two, for sure. Good stuff! Our first time ever hearing them live, by the way, though my wife’s been a fan for 35 years.
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I was (but only recently) aware of the Satriani/Tristano connection — but until just now, I had no idea he’d studied with Billie Bauer too. Some good info here, on both… https://www.jazzweekly.com/2020/04/joe-satriani-interview/
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https://www.dustygroove.com/browse.php?cat=jazz&incl_cs=1&no_incl_in=1&sort_order=release_date&format=cd
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And note, there’s two batches too — bunch on Sept 13th — and several more on Sept 27th. I’m gonna be tempted by a number of them, even not having parsed through the details of them yet.
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Interesting. I wonder if DG can get that back from USPS (I’m assuming $10.90 was your shipping charge) — or if Dusty just eats it.
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Me too, sometimes even less!! — Chicago to DC.
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Despite my deep love of Billy Harper, Tyrone Washington, Ornette, plenty of Sun Ra’s cadre of sax players (though admittedly not the absolute most ‘out’ of his free stuff), Gary Thomas, etc… I quite sheepishly have to admit that it’s Trane’s sheets-of-sound playing on Prestige that I’ve connected with the most. There are aspects — especially their ‘jam’-iness — of many of those recordings that leave a fair bit to be desired. But Trane’s playing — soloing — on those Prestige recordings is really lovely, and definitely moves me (or much of it does). And I have to confess that in all these years, I have yet to connect super-deeply even with Trane’s Atlantic(!) years — let alone either Impulse era. I know, I know… there’s absolutely no logic to this, given the number of other ‘challenging’ jazz sax players I do like and even love — but it is what it is. If it’s any indication, it was only a few months(!) ago that I *FINALLY* broke down and bought my first ever physical copy of A Love Supreme (the 2CD edition with the live version, and a few studio alternates). I listened to it about 4 times (and the live version twice) — all inside of two weeks time. And while I certainly ‘liked’ it (the studio version more than the live one) — I also didn’t quite “love” it. It was certainly interesting, and largely enjoyable — but I’m nowhere as moved by ALS as I certainly ought to be. And nobody is more shocked by this than I am. I like Giant Steps (the album) better, but even that only hits about a 7/10 for me. I hesitate to say ALS is a 6/10 album — but 6/10 does probably accurately reflect my ‘excitement’ level, or degree of emotional connection I had with it. I do have nothing but the highest respect for all of Trane’s output, Impulse years included. I just haven’t connected with much or any of it yet.
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Jimmy Buffett, legendary 'Margaritaville' singer, dies at 76
Rooster_Ties replied to sonnymax's topic in Artists
Don’t know much nor ever known much about Buffet, but this popped up on my YouTube feed… Buffet on Carson — and the second song he sings is “Stars Fell on Alabama”: -
Astonishing!! Some of the best camera work one could even imagine.
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Sorry, that CD comp cover is also glorious — it just is.
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The only Kenton I’ve ever had is the Graettinger City of a Glass comp (CD), with that drop dead gorgeous cover ❤️ (below), which — if I could ever find an LP-size image of it (in good quality) — I would be tempted to frame and hang on the wall. But I have it because my MOM had the original City of Glass 10” — which she also mentioned to me a few times as something wild she found somewhere, and picked up I think(?) because she had a cursory interest in modern dance. She heard a couple John Cage things back in the 50’s — that I think Merce Cunningham had brought to the University of Illinois (where she was in school), and a bit of modern music too — she also heard/saw some sort of Harry Partch dance/ballet collaboration too while she was in college at U of I. — and she fondly remembered the homemade microtonal instruments for the music. Anyway, I somehow suspect she picked up a copy of that City of Glass 10” because the dance department had performed something set to it maybe. Wish she was still around, or I’d ask her about it.
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Ghost Bands that produced good records
Rooster_Ties replied to Rabshakeh's topic in Miscellaneous Music
Aurora (2005) and a Mosaic Select (2011) — so about four hours of material. www.discogs.com/release/11160136-Sam-Rivers-Rivbea-All-star-Orchestra-Aurora https://www.discogs.com/release/5301764-Sam-Rivers-The-Rivbea-Orchestra-Mosaic-Select-Trilogy I seem to vaguely remember there was one (or two?) download album(s) too — which I never got the details of (and I never downloaded). That band sounded like they played as if their life depended on it. And I used to say they sounded like if Arnold Schoenberg led a big band, with a more ‘free-jazz’-influenced version of James Brown’s rhythm section. No shit, they were outrageous! -
Ghost Bands that produced good records
Rooster_Ties replied to Rabshakeh's topic in Miscellaneous Music
I’ve said it before, but I sure WISH Sam River’s Florida big band — from his later years — had gone on as a ghost band. An absolutely impossible endeavor, financially, I realize — but man, that band was just about the best larger-group Sam ever worked with, far as I’m concerned. -
They also have a pop-up msg on their site that, fwiw, says: SUMMER DEALS We are on vacation from 21 July till 2 September. Orders will be processed in the first week of September. 10% discount on all products, albums from Mosaic Records are excluded 40% discount on following labels: Arhoolie, Candid, Chiaroscuro, Clean Feed, Delmark, Double time, Fresh sound, Justin Time, Leo, Nagel Heyer, SteepleChase, Storyville, Reservoir, Red, RCA Discounts are settled directly at checkout and are [and then this sentence never finishes, it just ends there] We are on vacation from 21 July till 2 September. Orders will be processed in the first week of September.
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I have this lengthy 2cd set compilation (each disc is ~79 minutes) — and it’s wonderful… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Best_Best_of_Fela_Kuti It’s been out a number of times, some under different titles too… https://www.discogs.com/master/114003-Fela-Kuti-The-Best-Best-Of-Fela-Kuti-The-Black-President I’ve nearly bought the mega set a couple times, but it’s SO long, I just couldn’t justify it, knowing I’d barely get thru the whole thing more than a time or two (maybe once a decade, if I was lucky). I think(?) I vaguely remember there’s another (2nd, different) 2cd comp (maybe by the same people who did the one I liked to above?) — and I’ve thought about picking it up a time or two (which if I ever find one used, I probably will).