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I think Jonathan is referring to the Half Note recordings from 1959 (Konitz/Marsh/Evans/Garrison/Motian) - some was released in full on a Verve twofer CD in the 90's The LP releases on Revelation 22 & 27 (The Art Of Improvising, Vols 1 & 2) were just the Warne solos with rhythm section plus the occasional Konitz I have what I believe is an "unauthorized" release with 12 of the complete Half Note takes. I understand there are more than 40, so I'd buy it to get the other 30. 1 YOU STEPPED OUT OF A DREAM 27-track 10 7:42 14 BACK HOME 22-track 19 6:41 15 HALF NELSON 22-track 20 6:41 16 TANGERINE 27-track 4 6:25 17 YARDBIRD SUITE 27-track 6 7:36 18 BODY AND SOUL * 7:15 19 BACKGROUND MUSIC 27-track 11 8:26 20 WILL YOU STILL BE MINE? 27-track 7 9:02 21 PENNIES IN MINOR 27-track 14 inc. 6:34 1 IT'S YOU OR NO ONE 7:50 2 HOW ABOUT YOU 22-track 10 6:29 3 SCRAPPLE FROM THE APPLE 22-track 11 5:09 4 YOU STEPPED OUT OF A DREAM 22-track 17 7:53 5 317 E. 32nd 27-track 9 8:31 6 APRIL 22-track 18 10:26 7 IT'S YOU OR NO ONE 22-track 14 (ens.) / 22-track 16 (solo) 6:57 8 YESTERDAYS WM out 5:25 9 BABY, BABY ALL THE TIME 22-track 12 7:04 10 LENNIE BIRD 22-track 8 8:33 11 SUBCONSCIOUS-LEE 27-track 8 9:51 12 TWO NOT ONE 22-track 13 inc. 7:46 13 BACK HOME * 22-track 7 7:53 14 HALF NELSON * 22-track 15 8:15 15 THE SONG IS YOU 22-track 9 10:30 16 LOVERMAN WM out 4:35 17 YARDBIRD SUITE * 27-track 12 9:32 18 WILL YOU STILL BE MINE? * WM out 6:37 19 PENNIES IN MINOR 27-track 5 6:23 20 'ROUND MIDNIGHT 5:00 21 FISHIN' AROUND * 27-track 3 7:04 These are the 30 tracks, correct ?
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will do so, thnx....
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seconded, no doubt about it.
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OK, interesting hint - this are the two Criss Cross CD`s "Conversations with Warne Vol1 + Vol. 2 " - which one you would suggest to try first, if there`s a preference feasible at all ? Lou Levy`s leaves me recurringly puzzled, sometimes enjoying his playing and other times having seemingly similar sentiments as mentioned earlier reg. Apogee...... It's a pretty fascinating story that illustrates William Gaddis' theory of "Capitalism and the Arts- the destructive element". From the book, "An Unsung Cat": Marsh and Christlieb were disappointed with the way the LP turned out. They wanted just two tenors and bass and drums like in their private sessions. together. Becker and Fagen however added Lou Levy on piano, and used arr. by Joe Roccisano. WM and PC maintained that WB and DF not only chose the wrong takes, but destroyed the true sound of the band through their engineering techniques. WM said that WB and DF, "spoiled the master in such a way that you really lose the presence of the band. We have a master that's just spectacular. So we feel that that they just castrated the music. They didn't quite know what to do with us. Originally they wanted just me alone, but I wanted Pete because Pete can really play. There was no trouble with the band, but the producers had something else in mind." In 5 days, the group recorded a total of 33 takes of ten different tunes. Becker and Fagen rejected a half dozen tunes entirely, and even on tunes they accepted, PC said they chose takes that the band didn't like. "Everything we worked for was in jeopardy. They didn't want what we wanted." The group was particularly dismayed that WB and DF rejected a "Body and Soul" that the group loved. "They looked at it with such disdain, that it wore a hole in our soul. That one tune in place of their tune "Rapunzel" would have made an entirely different LP today." PC appealed to Warner Bros. executives in an attempt to rein WB and DF in, but was told that his problem was with the producers, not them (WB). Becker and Fagen made it clear that the LP would be done their way, or it would be Shitcanned(!). After Marsh returned to NY, Christlieb and the rhythm section were called back in to the studio to record five more tunes, but only one, "I'm Old Fashioned" was used. If Marsh was called for this final session- PC said he wasn't- he declined." As a previous poster said, 1991's "Conversations With Warne" on Criss Cross is the same band without the piano that consisted of material recorded before the 1978 "Apogee" sessions. thanx for sharing, much appreciated !!!
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thnx for your feedback, somehow it was my best guess you would be the one providing the info needed - thnx +VIELEN DANK !! ps as alternative I`ve found a couple of minutes ago coincidentally following link : http://www.cdbanq.com/Toshiba-EMI-Japan_bymfg_3-4-9.html#sthash.K99hw0OG.dpbs
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Make sure it contains the 3 bonus tracks not on the original album: Lunarcy, Love Me, How About You. I also think it's a good album. It's interesting to hear straight-ahead jazz recorded in a world-class studio. I enjoyed Christlieb more than Marsh; Lou Levy is a monster. yes the japanese reissue features the three bonus tracks - it`s interesting to read the rather broad variety of opinions expressed for the time being.......
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As Pete Christlieb Warne Marsh "Apogee" is currently reissued in Japan, may I ask for some thoughts reg subject recording.
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Could somebody pls kindly provide me with a list of Pacific Jazz reissues released by EMI Japan as part of a "999 Yen" Series (titled on the OBI Jazz 999 best&more and having a numbering beginning with TOCJ 50...) in 2010 ?
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Oregon`s chamber music like approach mirrors in it`s beginning the "Zeitgeist" of subject period - of course aptly being labeled as "worldmusic"....as a whole never too captivating to me, though Ralph Towner was an excellent guitar player......
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to my knowledge vol.5, consisting solely of previously unissued tracks, is cd only
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yes, Vol.1 feat "Summertime" already sets the tone nicely.......
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Ridiculous story about Hat hut and the Ne Plus Ultra Tape. If you don't know what to do with a tape, you don't destory it. Pure craziness. I don't know if there should be repercussions. That's your call. Looking forward to the Daley release. Wondering why a owner would lease an original tape without having a first generation analog and/or digital copy based on best possible technical/aural standards at his disposal - but otherwise really sad that somebody would destroy a tape at all, even the imagination hurts......
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Yes, I was hoping they would do a Russian set! The French box is excellent, sound quality and performances. Will definitely grab this set. It makes me feel definitely better not being the only one ordering Ansermet`s Russian Stuff
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in case this is the seller - http://www.ebay.com/usr/ftfym65 - that`s the one I just linked to Greg M. I´ve ordered a couple CD`s from him via Ebay recently (the only communication was the update via Ebay about the CD`s shipment) and the goods made it within 2-21/2 weeks to Europe......securely packed parcel`s and factory sealed cd`s. It IS this seller ... (see above) But now you got me really worried. I have checked my mails again but since receiving an automatic Auctiva purchase confirmation and my payment confirmation from Paypal (I paid immediately after making my purchase) I have not received ANY shipping information from whomever ... And 3 weeks since my payment have passed. to calm you down.......regarding my last two items (ordered the same day individually) i received a ebay notification reg one item, wondered about the second item (didn`t hear a word....) and received two days ago BOTH items in ONE parcel.... again there are alternatives reg other sellers, but this guy has all Sam Most (within reach) Greg M. was interested in..... Just received an eBay confirmation from that seller regarding my item bought and paid for on 4 April (!!): Item is now marked as "shipped". In short, a full FOUR weeks after the purchase this character finally sees fit to ship my item!! WTH?? And no word at any time about it being "temporarily out of stock" (on the contrary - mine was proclaimed to be the last in stock, and right after I had made my purchase the item was relisted with 2 said to be in stock). Am I amused? You bet I'm not! And I cannot really say I can wholeheartedly recommend this kind of business practice. I've half a mind of leaving feedback that reflects this. And I must say by and large this ties in with the expriences I have heard from other European buyers who have bought from Japanese sellers through the years. Helter-skelter shipping, close to zero communication (unless you limit yourself to receiving preassembled standard text modules - guess why ...), etc. I realize others around here had had better dealings (congrats to them) with Jap. sellers and I sincerely regret now I have never tried Hiroshi Tanno when he was still doing business (because his customer service seems to have been stellar indeed) but yet ... Really sorry to hear about his negative experience of yours - as mentioned mine made on average within 3 weeks to my place - but experiences seems to vary with a number of japanese dealers, another otherwise reliable (small) japanese dealer`s order of mine is now delayed already for more than a week and no explanation from his side....Hiroshi Tanno`s service quality was simply mirroring a different attitude (=old school....)....although this is most likely unsatisfying to you, I`ve learned (aka had to get used to) over the years being ok with it when the goods from Japan make it factory sealed and well packed to me at all...of course HMV Japan (when you can make it through their protracted ordering system for international clients) or CDJapan are shipping considerably faster, but the uptick for doing so is quite substantial.....bottom line : ENJOY the CD`s , as soon as they are with you........ This is unfortunate - I've had nothing but good outcomes with the Japanese dealers, esp CD Japan & HMV Japan My most recent order, a number of the new Bethlehems & the Coltrane in Japan SHM set with the extra interview disc got here in 3 days after shipping (usually within 1-3 days of ordering) Are there problems with using HMV Japan in Europe? No problems reg HMV Japan shippment to Europe, me believe - but also as returning customer sometimes it takes several tries to make it to the final check-out page........and it works suddenly as if based on a random generator....but probably based on me being "extra dumb"
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in case this is the seller - http://www.ebay.com/usr/ftfym65 - that`s the one I just linked to Greg M. I´ve ordered a couple CD`s from him via Ebay recently (the only communication was the update via Ebay about the CD`s shipment) and the goods made it within 2-21/2 weeks to Europe......securely packed parcel`s and factory sealed cd`s. It IS this seller ... (see above) But now you got me really worried. I have checked my mails again but since receiving an automatic Auctiva purchase confirmation and my payment confirmation from Paypal (I paid immediately after making my purchase) I have not received ANY shipping information from whomever ... And 3 weeks since my payment have passed. to calm you down.......regarding my last two items (ordered the same day individually) i received a ebay notification reg one item, wondered about the second item (didn`t hear a word....) and received two days ago BOTH items in ONE parcel.... again there are alternatives reg other sellers, but this guy has all Sam Most (within reach) Greg M. was interested in..... Just received an eBay confirmation from that seller regarding my item bought and paid for on 4 April (!!): Item is now marked as "shipped". In short, a full FOUR weeks after the purchase this character finally sees fit to ship my item!! WTH?? And no word at any time about it being "temporarily out of stock" (on the contrary - mine was proclaimed to be the last in stock, and right after I had made my purchase the item was relisted with 2 said to be in stock). Am I amused? You bet I'm not! And I cannot really say I can wholeheartedly recommend this kind of business practice. I've half a mind of leaving feedback that reflects this. And I must say by and large this ties in with the expriences I have heard from other European buyers who have bought from Japanese sellers through the years. Helter-skelter shipping, close to zero communication (unless you limit yourself to receiving preassembled standard text modules - guess why ...), etc. I realize others around here had had better dealings (congrats to them) with Jap. sellers and I sincerely regret now I have never tried Hiroshi Tanno when he was still doing business (because his customer service seems to have been stellar indeed) but yet ... Really sorry to hear about his negative experience of yours - as mentioned mine made it on average within 3 weeks to my place - but experiences seems to vary with a number of japanese dealers, another otherwise reliable (small) japanese dealer`s order of mine is now delayed already for more than a week and no explanation from his side....Hiroshi Tanno`s service quality was simply mirroring a different attitude (=old school....)....although this is most likely unsatisfying to you, I`ve learned (aka had to get used to) over the years being ok with it when the goods from Japan make it factory sealed and well packed to me at all...of course HMV Japan (when you can make it through their protracted ordering system for international clients) or CDJapan are shipping considerably faster, but the uptick for doing so is quite substantial.....bottom line : ENJOY the CD`s , as soon as they are with you........
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Good various artist compilation recommendations?
soulpope replied to awesome_welles's topic in Recommendations
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Max Roch Quartet "Live in Amsterdam" (Baystate) 1977 Max Roach Quartet "Nommo" (Victor) 1977 - Recorded LIVE in Lausanne, Switzerland, October 1976 Both Live Peformances feature the Roach Combo with Billy Harper, Cecil Bridgewater und Reggie Workman Considerably more intense than both the Live Date in Tokyo (January 21, 1977 at YUBIN CHOKIN HALL, TOKYO released on Denon) and the Horo studio recording released as "The Loadstar" in 1977"................ to my knowledge never digitalized.....
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Fair enough, Vishnu Wood really SHINES here
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Based on the beautifull LP foldout cover this supposedly would merit a papersleeve edition......
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http://www.popsike.com/BOBBY-JONES-DUSKO-GOJKOVIC-Benefiz-LP/4875725924.html Bobby Jones Dusko Goykovich 5tet Live 1973 Burghausen - brilliant performance feat Horace Parlan + Peter Trunk + Todd Canedy , Limited Edition LP issued to raise funds reg medical care for Bobby Jones, never out on CD and very much sought after (scarcity meets quality, therefore rightly so).....
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I definitely agree with you there. A matrvellous LP and that rhythm section A pity that rhythm section never recorded on their own at subject time for ECM ....... You can get close with this one... thnx for reminding...but as you said JUST close ...........of course we have to settle for what we got, nevertheless as Manfred Eicher @ECM had already quite a prolific release police at subject time it seems sort of "bad luck" the "Dansere Rhythm Section" didn`t have a shot reg an own release......btw Arild Andersen=