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I received my disc two days before, and today I saw thread - answers! I did not look at it, I would like to add mine oppinion. Maybe we can put some general thoughts about how much time we need for one test.

Anyone heard this talented bassist? He played with lot of mid 1930's band, and finally he was hired by Benny Goodman (you can hear him with Goodman's combo with Christian, I am in hope these tracks are in much better sound today on new Columbia's release). He had big, full sounded tone, but flexible enough. Despite poor record equipment of the past Artie's clear tone and secure playing can be recognized instantly! He certainly was close to line that drew great Walter Page, probably similar to John Kirby, judging to sonority of his bass lines.

Noticing slight imperfection in JATP 1944-49 issue (I made fast comparisons with some discographies), I wonder how many concerts from 1949 till, let's say 1960 were issued on various media (vinyl, CDs and so on)? Why am I asking all this? I've heard some marvelous, mad swinging, white heated JATP concert while guessing musicians and date. Finally, I fixed date around 1952, and there were Illinois Jacquet, Lester Young, Charlie Shavers, Buddy Rich... Pres played some marvelous 4 bar leap, and Shavers played beautiful extended solo. It is a pity that all that great music is hardly available to wide public. I played some 1944-49 concert discs to large variety of people (many of them never listened to jazz), and they said they like it very, very much! And of course, I am among those whose jaws are dropped right down to the floor, every time I listen to it, and never consider those dates as circus.

Jim, Very much jazz content in his singing, indeed! The way he changed melody of "Jeepers Creepers" on that BH live recording is marvelous. Oh, that 1942. Whiteman date and first appearance of "Travellin' Light", with powerfull Billie singing! It is usually said that Pres was in sax section (he takes no solos, anyway). Jihnny Mercer was co founder of Capitol records, really. I think I've read somewhere that Nat Cole was indulged in that, too.

In his post on "Lucky Thomspon, brownian motion observed something that was so interesting: "But his one vocal effort on Louis Jordan's "She Dyed Her Hair Chartreuse" sounds so much like Johnny Mercer, who I think is a superb jazz-pop vocalist"... I will add my votes to that. Mercer certainly was one of my favourite song writers anytime, but his vocal attempts was jazz oriented. I refer to Columbia Billi Holiday set where he sings alongside with Lady Day, Leo Watson and female Goodman vocalist on live date. It is full of jazz oriented phrasing, and good in intoantion as well as clear diction. I have a few other dates, mostly with Benny Goodman Camel Caravan sessions, and he is great there, too. Anyone shares ours oppinion about famous songwriter, Johnny Mercer?

Paul, many thanks for bringing to us those helpful discographical informations.

Many thanks for bringing this to all of us, Flurin and Agustin! Just to inform all of us interested in this subject, that a few live recordings with Pres singing exists in family: http://www.harlem.org/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000001.html And on his blindfold test 4, Jim brought some crazy 3 chorus long Pres solo from 1944 with Basie. Some of the parts of this solo reminded me to Pres voice and his singing! Real nice!

transfered from Brownie thread: That 'Helen Sings, Teddy Swings' was recorded by Victor Japan in October 197O in Tokyo. Album details (from The Lord): Helen Merrill, vo, Teddy Wilson, p, Larry Ridley, b, Lenny McBrown, dr. - I Cried for You - Lover Man - I Only Have Eyes for You - East of the Sun - You Better Go Now - I Must Have That Man - Embraceable You Helen Merrill, Wilson, Kunimitsu Inaba, b, Takeshi Inompata, dr. - Summertime - I Cover the Waterfront - Pennies from Heaven Helen Merrill was very popular in Japan and she recorded dozens of albums there. Have not heard the Merrill/Wilson one. jazzbo Posted: Jan 15 2004, 06:41 AM Helen LIVED in Japan a number of years. I wish someone could release all those albums domestically on cd! -------------------- ". . . but you don't have to call me Lonson" mmilovan Posted: Jan 15 2004, 10:44 AM QUOTE (brownie @ Jan 15 2004, 12:59 AM) That 'Helen Sings, Teddy Swings' was recorded by Victor Japan in October 197O in Tokyo. Album details (from The Lord): Helen Merrill, vo, Teddy Wilson, p, Larry Ridley, b, Lenny McBrown, dr. - I Cried for You - Lover Man - I Only Have Eyes for You - East of the Sun - You Better Go Now - I Must Have That Man - Embraceable You Helen Merrill, Wilson, Kunimitsu Inaba, b, Takeshi Inompata, dr. - Summertime - I Cover the Waterfront - Pennies from Heaven Oh man, Hellen, accompanied by Willson (was Larry Ridley, b in Monk's group at that time) and all that standards, probably well recorded! Sounds like a dream!

Didn't know that!

Didn't know that!

Hmmm, Lon... session with Hellen, Teddy and Monk???

Well, just to refer to my question posted here: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...opic=6634&st=15 It would be real beauty to hear "Bill Evans of the Swing Era" - Teddy Willson behind Hellen, right? And Monk, too!

This is a bit offtopic but someone knows something about material Hellen recorded in early 1970's Japan tour - she sung with Teddy Willson and there is beautifull photo of Merill, willson and Thelonious Monk who admired Willson!

I own crappy sounding Columbia CK 45275 "Roy Eldridge Little Jazz" CD. It is not Teddy Willson all the way! Not recordings are in good sound! Nor they are trio sessions! Still it is some of the best Teddy ever (my favourite certainly is "Blues In C# Minor"). God knows when Columbia will issue complete Pre WWII recordings Teddy Willson's recordings. Some of the best small group recordings of swing era.

Was John Kirby Sextet extremely popular at that period, also (if it counts in small band format)? Or Louis Jordan? Just to add one thought to yours question: King Cole maybe not directly influenced bop bands, but Oscar Peterson working supporting group for sure! So, he did not influenced bop, he influenced "straightforward Verve sound" of 1950's.

Do not ever forget to hear four takes Hartman did with Dizzy's Big Band in late 1940's. Much smoother, completely different voice than on albums with Trane and albums on Bethlehem label. B) Dont really know what to think about "For Trane" album that I own. The Japanese musicians were quite good, but I think Hartman's voice (to be precise: his sense for intonation) begun to fall. But memorial content of this moves me every time I am playing it. Anyway, despite 2 1/2 stars I enjoy it, as well as other albums he did. And I hate those stars in reference guides to music records!

Jerome is known to me by two of his early connections with Christian: famous interview you can read in link posted, and (also famous) private studio session (broadcast?) with members of Goodman band where Christian played perfect rhythm guitar and soloed on "Lady Be Good" (two takes). Jerom is heard there, and he was pretty good, also. Later, I put some investigation and found he was member of BG big band since Vido Musso left Benny. Judging from what can be heard Jerome respected Lester Young in conception (that progressed from year to year while with Goodman) and Chu Bery or Hawkins playing theirs wide big fat sound. I did not know he played behind Chubby Checker! Thanks Jim, it is always blessing to know something new.

I must say I am happy with my relatively new Grundig Squixx, but I have to change his original hdph w. Sennheiser MX300. Like the drive, it has great skip protection. But, I don't like method of changing the discs Noone ever thought about that! It was simple w. cassetes, but with CDs it is boring, painfull job - not to destroy discs.

As I understood DVD-A is PCM coded 24 Bit at high sample rates begins with 48 KHz and more, right?

I've searched a lot, and I didn't find anything simillar? This would be nice burner for everybody who owns SACD or DVD-A - to transfer collections of vinyls or tapes more accuratelly, I think.

Yes, this is our audio blindfold test! Great! rockefeller center, it could be "Freedy...", of course.

They probably have not everything, but they have something that we dont have - I did some search at his site... When it is talk about other countries and when it is jazz concerned, things varies from country to country, at least in Europe. I was amazed how did they were carefull in issuing historic records of jazz in Hungary; I've also heard the same is with Czechs, and probably with many more people around the world.

This is good idea, I like that album very much. Maybe "Blue In Green", if I'm not asking too much. Not knowing what are mp3 and what are wav originals it would be big challenge to try to detect them. You can also put multiple copies all random mixed up - wav and mp3 - that will make game more interesting. I think you have my adress, right? And I am sorry for missing the point of this discussion in some aspects.

If you are "seriously into jazz" never, never, never use mp3 format to listen to it. It is compressed format. I know that I probably will get opposite answers but difference CAN be heard (in expensive as well as in cheap systems - listen to for an example to cymbals and you will hear the difference). About annoying noises: some mp3 machines have problems while reading from particular media - some of discs are suitable for them, some not. The same occurs if media is burned at faster speed, some of them are not well readable. There is no general rule to that - some people say that media with silver dye have better results, the other say green media etc. The best way is to do an experiment for yourself and try to find out what combination of media and burn speed is the best. But, I wouldn't go for mp3, anyway.

Well, I did. I have threads I was interested in to read.