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She really did make her own mark on the music. Those first four Impulse albums were incredible works.

Lon, to each his own on that call. Main point I was making is that I hope to get a CD of the album rather than a download. As far as the session, I think everyone is right. I find "Money" silly, the title track thrilling.

So far I'm fighting the good fight, have not done i-tunes for the Shepp and Anita O'Day titles I'd really like to have.

Adam, I'm trying to hold off going that route. Peter Principle says it'll come out in Japan as a 1500yen release the day after I pay the ripoff artists at i-tunes for it.

Can anyone tell me where to get a decently priced CD of Archie Shepp - Things Have Got To Change? I should have grabbed the Japanese import of this on Dusty Groove several years ago. Thanks!

I'd love to see Odean Pope (but won't happen. I have seen him a few times through the years), and hope to get to Organissimo despite family scheduling conflicts (negotiations commencing). Negotiations successfully completed. I'll be there for Organissimo at the Art Museum, along with wife, daughter, and daughter's friend who is staying for the weekend.

I'd love to see Odean Pope (but won't happen. I have seen him a few times through the years), and hope to get to Organissimo despite family scheduling conflicts (negotiations commencing).

I hope this all works out OK. Blue Note did the same thing in the 80's (Tyner/McLean, Hubbard, Turrentine, Smith, etc. etc.) and the results were less than spectacular almost across the board. I'm not sure you can (or should) go home again. That being said, I'd love to see them record Harper and look forward to hearing the Tolliver.

I preordered it and the Tyner (and ordered the Lloyd and Blakey singles) from their website earlier in the week.

I've paid my $ for at least one version of any Trane CD that Impulse! (and Pablo and Atlantic and Prestige and Roulette, for that matter) have released, and would do so for this if someone owned the rights and put it out. And Temple University is on the short list of colleges my daughter may attend next year, and I buy every decent Alice Coltrane CD that comes out, so who am I cheating and in what way am I a hypocrite?

Jazz CD reissues seem to still be flooding out in Japan, for whatever $ reason.

I don't think the "pay it forward" has to be instantaneous to make the concept valid. It's more about creating an atmosphere of giving, sharing, and good will. I'm sure the guys will get around to it.

Operative phrase that seems to have been missed - " if the price is somewhat reasonable". That won't likely be the case on any of these. Most or all of the Chet Baker stuff is available on BN/Pacific Jazz. If you're willing to consider that European Copyright Laws have some validity, Definitive/Lone Hill have some great comprehensive sets on Baker and Baker/Mulligan that make a lot more sense than the non-Mosaic domestic reissues. Different portions of the Giuffre and Hamilton, and I believe the Shank, are available on domestic and Definitive/Lone Hill reissues, all at a much more cost-effective rate than the Mosaics.

so that people can easily tell what your comments are and where Felser's comments end. Then I will grant, quotes or no, that Robert H.'s comments were well thought out and did address my previous comments. We'll see what shakes out. DVD's were a clear advantage over VHS, as CD's were over cassettes and LP's. I just don't see it with downloads. But then, I'm a 40+ male who doesn't often buy newly recorded releases

It's not "inevitable" that downloading will replace CD's - IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED. What you are seeing is the transition taking place. The physical product is being sold only to older demographic who are hanging on to the product they have been accustomed to, primarily carrying legacy musics, which they tend to enjoy buying over and over again. Reality is quite simple. People today do not want product. They want CHOICE and SERVICE. They don't want albums. They want tunes. And they want them delivered to the carrier they choose. The reason the industry is undergoing this transition is primarily that it has historically viewed itself as a provider of consumer packaged goods - marketed as such. Today, music is not a CPG, it is a service product and the labels have yet to fully come to terms with that. Verve downsized for a simple reason. Sales could no longer support the staff size. Unfortunately, as the core buyers of physical product continue to age, there is simply not enough to support the staff size. Those that understand the new model will be successful. I dunno. Still feels like when the industry tried to replace LP's with cheaper to produce cassettes in the 70's, using the same argument about portability, etc. LP's didn't go away until a superior archival form (CD's) was rolled out. If people want choice and service instead of product, why did CD's outsell album downloads 18-1 in '06? (and based on that stat, it mystifies me when you state that downloading has already replaced albums. Not sure what you base that statement on, but facts don't seem to be involved). Even single track downloads didn't outsell CD albums - though I grant you downloads make more sense for single track disposable pop for the youth culture catered to by that market. I'll grant you that I'm part of the "older demographic" being so easily dissed in your discussion. Me, I still consider myself People, and I want PRODUCT. I want albums. And I want them on CD. And, based even more on my rock/pop/soul interests than my jazz interest, I have trouble believing I'm all that alone in this. And I thnk there's still many of millions of dollars to be made for the companies who can grasp and properly address THAT reality.

This will save me a lot of money going forward then, if there will be no more domestic reissues to buy. What little I spend will go to Fresh Sound, Proper, Definitive, and Lone Hill, I guess. And no doubt Blue Note will find a way to keep repackaging product, since it apparently sells sufficiently well.

2006 US sales numbers from an article in yesterday's Philadelphia Inquirer - album downloads- 32 million. Album CD sales 588 million. Don't buy the hype of the inevitability of downloads needing to replace CD's. Downloading is a singles, pop, disposable phenomenon.

Downloaded the Trane and the Newk, and would have liked some of the Neil Young, etc. if those had been available. My first music downloads from a site like this. Are there similar sites anyone can recommend?

Totally with you on this.

I don't know all that much about economics, but it sounds like what you are calling for here is inflation. Artificial increase in stock prices due to demand? No, it isn't inflation. Guy What is that called? A buying frenzy? I'm sure there's a term for it. Stock prices are based on perception, on expectation of future performance. Past/present performance is only one aspect of that. Remember the dot com boom/bust? The boom had everything to do with the allure of the then seemingly limitless potential of the internet technology, almost nothing to do with the actual performance of the companies. The bust came when the realities prevailed in the future projections, not because the actual businesses somehow started to do worse. Has Amazon had a profitable quarter yet? I know for many years they hadn't. It was years before major cable interests like CNN, ESPN, and MTV turned profitable. Think that kept their stock prices depressed? Good jobs will return to the US when the US government makes that a public policy priority and gives tax breaks to companies for creating good jobs. That's what public policy is supposed to be about, enabling desirable outcomes in a free enterprise system (I'm sure I'll get nailed from both the right and the left for that statement!). That's why you get a tax break on your mortgage payments, because it's good for people to own houses. That's why there are now starting to be education credits, because it's good for the US population/work force to be educated, etc.

I've gotten Blue Note promos from them, but they were in the condition specified (new. sealed).

She can? Old Firesign Theatre bit about high school: Porgie: Mudhead, you don't even have any extracurricular activities Mudhead: Gee, Porgie, doesn't Dolores count? Porgie: Only to ten, Mudhead. My artists (for their music): Art Blakey Miles Davis Duke Ellington Bob Dylan John Coltrane Pains me to leave out others who were brilliant but their primes were too short to make the cut (Bird, Byrds, Beatles, Who, etc.) or who have had long, often distinguished careers, but I just can't make room for them (Richard Thompson, Neil Young, McCoy Tyner, Jackie McLean, Chick Corea, etc.). I needed to have at least one vocal artist, so chose the Voice of my generation.

There are two volumes of the Quasimodo cuts, vol. 1 and vol. 2. On the spine, they are titled 'Live in Berlin/Vol. 1' and 'Live in Berlin/Vol.2'. The CD's themselves are labeled 'Live in Berlin at the Quasimodo/Vol. 1' and 'Live in Berlin at the Quasimodo/Vol. 2' Both recorded July 21 & 22, 1988. Personnel is Tolliver - trumpet, Alain Jean-Marie - piano, Ugonna Okegwo - bass, and Ralph Van Duncan - drums. Vol. 1 has "Ruthie's Heart", "Ah, I See", "Stretch", and "On The Nile". Vol. 2 has "Toughin' ", "Drought", "For Love of What", "Impact", and "In the Trenches". Vol. 1 came out in 1990, vol. 2 came out in 1992.

Dude, I know you're a good guy, no question about that. So I'm not busting you personal chops on this. But... It's statements like the one above that contribute to the current climate, that give "the powers that be" the juice they need to go on ahead and do what they do w/o fear and w/o remorse. I guarantee you that that's the first line of defense when they get called on their bullshit - "We have a responsibility to our stockholders". And then when confronted, that's their first tact, to throw it back in your face - "Well, would you rather have a samller return on your investment than a larger one?" Like they're just doing your personal bidding in all this and you should by god THANK them for creating instability, distrust, and angst in the world you have to live in. And to the extent that nobody steps up to the plate and says WAIT JUST A MOTHERFUCKING MINUTE ASSHOLE, we want a return, we want to make money, we want you to make money, hell, we like money, we want everybody to make money, just not at the expense of the long-term health and stability of our society, then yeah, they're right. Thing is, this ain't nothing new. This is the oldest trick in the book, the work of the silver-tongued serpent who steals your soul under the guise of simply "giving you what you want". We can all claim that it's not our fault, but when the beast files the papers in the Case Closed drawer, it will simply smile and say "You had a choice and you made it. I just gave you what you wanted". Jan, I think you're not old enough to have lived for too long, if at all, in a pre-Reagan-era America. So this may well be all you know. But some of us are old enough and have memories long enough to know that although "business realities" are always going to be what they are, and something over which we ultimately have only a modicum of control, the degree to which those realities play themselves out are very much a matter of choice. A generation of Americans has been hypnotized into thinking that they don't have these choices, but I'm here to tell you right now that goddammit, you do. You do, I do, we all do. Jim, I supported McGovern and John Anderson, and am with you in spirit. I'm middle class, own no stock in Universal/Sony or WEA. And I want nothing to do with bad downloads. Please let me know how the convictions you've stated should be played out in our cases. Thx.

It is "sucky". It's a illusional/delusional "reality" that people buy into. It's a rationalization for simple, old-fashioned greed. And it has but one eventual outcome. Shareholders who value the notion of a "good-enough" profit that comes accompanied by things like long-term social responsibility and a respect for cultural values had better start speaking up loudly and immediately, before it's too late, if it's not already. WAKE UP!!! Wake up! is helpful and appropriate for a sleeping man, but useless for a dead one. That's an extremely stupid comment. I'm only pointing out obvious truths of pulbicly traded companies. At no point have I discussed my personal feelings. to you. JLarsen, I wasn't referring to you, I was referring to the aforementioned stockholders in Jim's comments (which also is who he addressed the "WAKE UP" to). I like you fine and think highly of you.