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Monk DVD to Mark, compliments of the season!

I have a legit extra of the DVD portion of the "Monk in Paris" set to give away. Also comes with the booklet from the set. Recorded in Oslo 4/15/66. Monk/Rouse/Gales/Riley doing "Lulu's Back in Town"/"Blue Monk"/"Round Midnight". Running time is about 25 minutes.

What the philosophers would refer to as a "necessary consequence" of what's being discussed in "Are jazz reissues dead?".

Lon, buy it for the remastering and the unreleased stuff (which is substantial, about two albums worth), and sell your old stuff on ebay, which will pay for the new set. It's well worth the effort.

That sound bit at the end of 'Last Date' is chilling! My absolute favorite Dolphy album, bar none, especially "You Don't Know What Love Is".

I really liked the Van Morrison, Rory Gallagher, and Suzanne Vega Montreux DVD's. CD-wise, Beth Orton 'Comfort of Strangers' and the continuing 'Instant Live' series of Allman Brothers concert CD's are the ones I can remember right now.

Yep. I like Chewy from some good dealings we've had offline exchanging CD's, hope to see him learn to post in a way where he will be able to gain some credibility in the neighborhood rather than being dismissed out of hand. He's a good guy.

Right, by all means, let's not encourage people to think before they talk, or seek any proper perspective, let's just escalate name calling. After all, we got da rhythm (pre and post JB). What else could possibly matter?

So all I'm waiting for is for this stuff to be made available over here. So, what's the problem, Clem? It's no good you saying "I criticise". What's the problem? (And please remember you're talking to a tech idjit.) MG The problem is that the same $10 that used to buy a digitally remastered CD with bonus tracks, historical liner notes and enhanced packaging is now the going rate for a bunch of compressed mp3 files which have to be downloaded and burned onto a greenback CD-R which is more vulnerable to problems than a real CD, and there is no art, bonus cuts, historical essays, etc. I have so far refused to begin paying for downloads, and at $10 a pop, it should be pretty easy to keep my resistance. I will have no sympathy for the majors and will gladly pay for the CD's on Proper, Definitive, Lone Hill, etc. when they become available in Europe due to the different copyright laws. Now THAT I can understand. And agree with. Thanks Felser. MG And here's another issue - no resale value. If I buy a CD and don't like it, I can sell or trade it and recoup part of my lost value, plus sometimes CD's even appreciate over time (ehllo Mosaic). All of this is taken from me with downloads. Which should make a person much less willing to explore music, to take a chance on something. I don't doubt that I'll eventually pay the $10 to download something like the missing Archie Shepp and Marion Brown Impulse titles if that's the only reasonable way to get them, but I certainly won't be exploring, the way I do with CD's. And bothe the companies and I will be poorer for it.

You can decide if it's an interesting path for you or not. It's usefulness is this: There is a tendency on this board for unthoughtout (sic) hyperbolic statements, and I'm trying to encourage that some thought be put into opinions before they are posted, that they be based in reality not just thrown out there in the heat of the moment. I'm not trying to run a poll of the five greatest black people of all-time, I'm trying to discourage comments like James Brown has to be included among them. To that end, I had just come up with a few obvious names to make the point. Where James Brown's true place is in music history and black history is, I think, a very useful and rewarding discussion if done with due consideration and thought.

I'm sorry he's gone, but not sure how hype like this helps the cause. Let us know which two of the following get removed from the list to make room for JB, who was by all accounts a groundbreaking musician but a real MF of a human being: - Frederick O. Douglass - Booker T. Washington - George Washington Carver - Jackie Robinson - Duke Ellington - Martin Luther King What about Nelson Mandela? Two more good names that I don't at all disagree with, which just further make my point. Thanks.

So all I'm waiting for is for this stuff to be made available over here. So, what's the problem, Clem? It's no good you saying "I criticise". What's the problem? (And please remember you're talking to a tech idjit.) MG The problem is that the same $10 that used to buy a digitally remastered CD with bonus tracks, historical liner notes and enhanced packaging is now the going rate for a bunch of compressed mp3 files which have to be downloaded and burned onto a greenback CD-R which is more vulnerable to problems than a real CD, and there is no art, bonus cuts, historical essays, etc. I have so far refused to begin paying for downloads, and at $10 a pop, it should be pretty easy to keep my resistance. I will have no sympathy for the majors and will gladly pay for the CD's on Proper, Definitive, Lone Hill, etc. when they become available in Europe due to the different copyright laws.

The potential benefits of CD's were obvious from the get-go. Can't say the same about downloads - seems like their main benefit is that the corporation doesn't have to spend any money on media distribution or returns. What's in it for us if they replace CD's?

I'm sorry he's gone, but not sure how hype like this helps the cause. Let us know which two of the following get removed from the list to make room for JB, who was by all accounts a groundbreaking musician but a real MF of a human being: - Frederick O. Douglass - Booker T. Washington - George Washington Carver - Jackie Robinson - Duke Ellington - Martin Luther King

I'll pound the first nail. Don't actually disagree with the statement, but that doesn't make his music any less important. Without JB and the British Invasion, Funk and Rock would never have become what they did in their golden eras, and we would be much the poorer for it.

I'm sure it will be. It's the only business model that makes sense for them. Sonny Rollins and Monk can't be far behind. What are the two upcoming Trane boxes?

Clark Terry fought the law and Clark Terry won?

are squared? Say what? I'm also Greek challenged.

I thought O'Day sounded just awful on this set. And I love her Verves and earlier. Should have emphasized Somehow... But really thought Anita sounded better on this one than on her later discs. At least, not as embarassing! I'm sure you're right then. I stopped listening many moons ago because I couldn't bear it any more.

I thought O'Day sounded just awful on this set. And I love her Verves and earlier.

That was my first reaction as well. Is Mosaic entering the recording/production business? yes. The liner notes to the Tolliver Mosaic Select had indicated that it was the beginning of several joint projects between Mosaic and Strata-East. So I guess maybe Tolliver's contract is with Mosaic, reverse=leased to Blue Note, or whatever. Hopefully will also include some of the missing 70's Strata-East albums, though I know that's been discussed here before and Chuck says the Strata-East situation on a lot of the albums is so bad it will never get worked out. BTW, does anyone have an update on Clifford Jordan - In The World being reissued by a Japanese label (Canyon Pony or something like that) soon? And the other Strata-East sets I long for on CD, Sonny Fortune - Long Before Our Mothers Cried, Charles Sullivan - Genesis, Ron Burton - The Waterbearers, Shirley Scott - One for Me.

Thanks all, I have ordered the twofers with the Jenkins/Marshall version of Nucleus. What was Nucleus like after they left?

Give details for the technologically semi-challenged. Where do I start?

Jim, How do we sort through it to know who in the new era is worth hearing, without buying a lot of $15-$20 CD's which sound like academic runthroughs or trip-hop wannabees? Are there trustworthy domestic labels the way Blue Note, Riverside, Prestige, and Contemporary were for our parents generation? I sure don't trust the "new" Blue Note or any of the majors, can't afford the imports. How do we avoid the hype of the "new breakthroughs" which foist the Modeski, Martin, and Wood's, etc. on us? How do we avoid the pure noise? What critical sources are trustworthy? I've bought a couple of large collections chock full of jazz promos from small labels and have spent the last several years working through them, finding dozens of new artists I like on labels like Origin and Sharp Nine, etc.

Great record - forgot about that one. Also the Don Friedmans are excellent. Forgot about Friedman. Going back to add 'Circle Waltz' to my list immediately.