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PM sent on the Bobby Battle.
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Worth it for the liner notes in which yours truly (circa 1980) says snotty things about Pepper Adams and Art Farmer that he wishes he could take back.
Well, we all have snotty things we said about people 30 years ago that we wish we could take back (I know I do, and have specifics that still haunt me), but thankfully for most of us, no one remembers or is paying any attention to those things 30 years later. The curse of credibility. Adams actually is my all-time favorite on baritone. Thank you, Larry, for being willing to share that with us.
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Try Carnival, clifford_thronton. Billy Harper will pull you in.
"Mystery of Love" from that one was the piece that first got me into Weston. I was already a Harper fan from his work on the 'Lee Morgan' album, especially "Capra Black", and from his Strata-East 'Capra Black' album. I like the early Weston stuff, but have always been more drawn to Weston's material from the mid-60's on, which was much more Afro-centric. I think the story is that he took a trip to Africa, which changed his conception, if I remember correctly.
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For the early stuff, the easiest way is to check out the samples on Amazon :
Manfred Mann - Down The Road Apiece
In particular, check out Without You ( great Kirkish flute ), Why Should We Not and Sack O'Woe.
Do you know offhand the ratio of instrumental grooviness to vocal beat group stuff on this collection?
80% vocal, but great period stuff. The Chapter 3 stuff has been on CD, I have it.
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I picked up Master Of The Art last week at my local independent retailer. For some reason he did not receive the other one from his distributor, otherwise I would have purchased both. I have not put the CD on yet, but I have owned both of vinyl for years. My recollection is that the music is very strong, but I recall the sound quality not being as good as I would have preferred. I could be wrong about that. I will try to put the CD on in the next day or two.
Looking forward to your opinion.
The band seems to be the same one which was recorded on the four Woody Shaw Live cds, sans Hutcherson that were put out by High Note. Similar material, I suppose?
There was discussion about this in another thread recently. Really good sets.
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The Freddie Roach is great, and also very hard to come by.
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Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere on the site. Received notification that BMG Music Service is going out of business on May 31. They will continue to run Yourmusic, but not the parent club. Too bad, because you could do a lot better through the club on multiple CD sets than through Yourmusic. I've belonged to them for about 20 years, and had belonged to Columbia Record/CD club for over 30 years, so it's going to feel strange to have neither around any more. Built a lot of my collection through those two clubs, especially Columbia, where you you could average under $5 per CD, tax and shipping included.
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Women from the City of Brotherly Love division:
Trudy Pitts
Shirley Scott
British Prog/Jazz/Rock division:
Brian Auger (Trinity, Oblivion Express)
Mike Ratledge (Soft Machine)
David Sinclair (Caravan)
Pete Bardens (Camel)
Rod Argent (Zombies, Argent)
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up, more discs added
PM sent on the D'Silva.
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While it’s not earth-shattering from a jazz perspective, it’s more important as a precursor of the hippie rock jams later in the decade. To me, “Spanish Key” sounds like a missing link between early-1960s Coltrane and the Allman Brothers Band.
It’s an album that has much broader appeal than just jazz listeners.
The quintet regrouped for a reunion set that was released in 1996.
Thought I would bump this up for renewed discussion since some people may have now heard this material for the first time through the John Handy Mosaic Select release. I was surprised the first time through how few people were familiar with this material. I assume Chuck still doesn't care for it
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My guess is that he couldn't afford to shoot many more performances than are in the final film. (Film stock and developing is expensive.) Be great if I was wrong and lots more showed up.
I know that for the '67 Monterey Pop Festival, only the first song or two was filmed for most of the acts, which is a tragic loss. (At least that's what the documentary says). Suspect Woodstock was the same. Seems like more would have come out on DVD for those if there was more, though maybe I'm just showing my age/era here....
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And I certainly understand why it wasn't a hit. Pretty dumb record. Not a..."Maybe Tomorrow" by any stretch of the imagination.
5-4-3-2-1 was the theme song of Britain's Shindig-type TV show called Ready, Steady, Go. I believe that it was a minor hit there, released before Do Wah Diddy.
And felser, you mean Come Tomorrow, right?
Yes I do - I'll correct my post. That one wasn't a hit here, so isn't plastered in my subconscious active file like "Doo Wah Diddy Diddy" is.
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Ruppli lists this in the numerical listing of 45s.
And I certainly understand why it wasn't a hit. Pretty dumb record. Not a "Doo Wah Diddy Diddy" or "Pretty Flamingo" or "Come Tomorrow" by any stretch of the imagination. Closer to Freddie and the Dreamers type inanities. Manfred Mann, in addition to those great singles, had some killer album tracks like "Smokestack Lightning". But like any early British Invasion groups (except for THAT ONE early British Invasion Group), also had some real dogs. Andy 5-4-3-2-1 is of the canine variety. Question for Chuck. If 5-4-3-2-1 had somehow become a million seller, would Prestige have had the manufacturing and distribution bandwidth to handle it? Seems like a whold different world than jazz LP's which would have been selling, what, 5,000 copies each? What was normal sales in that era for jazz LP's by second tier names (IE not the big sellers like Miles, Brubeck, etc.)?
edited to correct song title per GA Russell.
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Nope. Talking about college towns. Bloomington, Madison, etc. That's where these records sold.
Gotcha. Makes sense. Were there college radio stations playing it in those towns, or was it word of mouth and the fledgling rock press? I shudder to think what someone like Jon Landau would have done in a review of that one.
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Jim is absolutely correct: it was not a hit record at first.
As a record retailer at the time, I shoved hundreds of 'em into bags. It was huge in any store I was working.
Probably did well in the large urban markets that would have had "underground" radio stations like Chicago, where I believe you were. Probably never got heard in the hinterlands which were still exclusively AM Top 40 stations. I was even in a city that had a good underground station (Cincinnati, WEBN), and I don't remember hearing it, though I was 13 years old and would not have liked or understood it if I had heard it. Not sure how much I actually like or understand it even now, but I do admire it.
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Pardon me, but I'll ignore Van Morrison this time around, too. I've never liked his singing.
Nothing is more pathetic than his attempts to sing on a Chet Baker DVD, reading the words off the sheet music, as does the much overhyped Elvis Costello.
This is wide-ranging forum for jazz fans, many of whom have wide-ranging tastes. Grateful Dead, prog rock, Van Morrison, Heart Attack, Flipper, Black Flag, Sonic Youth - and a whole load more. Doesn't mean you have to express your distaste every time someone you don't dig gets some O cyber time.
But the beauty of an open forum is that you have the freedom to express your distastes! I admire Costello for turning five good years of music ('77-'82) into a 30+ year career and a marriage to the lovely and talented Diana Krall.
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Well, it was not a hit by any stretch of the imagination, was it? Not compared to what would soon follow. I read that it didn't even make the Billboard album charts or something!
Correct, it did not make the Billboard Top 200 album charts at all. 'Moondance' went to #22. Morrison has only ever had one top 20 album, "St. Dominic's Preview", which made #15.
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I love that Stranded book. An old, old favorite.
Greil Marcus ROCKS. I love the 'Mystery Train' book.
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The sound quality has never been a strong point of these recordings, so I'd say go for whatever suits you best
Agreed on the sound quality. Also, Mal Waldron was stuck playing the most out of tune piano in the history of recorded music. The Dolphy Prestige CD box is the way to go on all of this stuff if you like Dolphy, far more economical than any other configuration and nice packaging. And if you're not sold on Dolphy, the Five Spot stuff isn't anywhere near the place to start (I'd start with his recordings with Mingus and with 'Last Date').
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I've got a few things I'd like to sell, as follows:
John Handy Select - listened to one Cd, other two are still sealed $36
Not 'to your taste?'
PM sent on the Handy
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I apologize if this is a stupid question, but what is a "K2"? I see it referenced frequently. I assume it is a reference to a particular issue or edition, but chronologically/qualitatively have no idea where it fits.
Not stupid at all, thank you for asking. 20-bit K2 remastering was used by Fantasy on a select set of their OJC titles and these editions were released in the early 2000's before Fantasy sold their operations lock, stalk, and barrell to the Evil Concord Empire, who are much more concerned about hawking the latest lame James Taylor and Paul McCartney titles than about the availability and well-being of some classic, beautiful 45-50 year old Walt Dickerson titles. Anyways these remasters, the K2's, are widely renowned for their sound quaility, and most of the board members who have much better stereo systems than I do seem to find them far superior to the latter RVG and Keepnews editions, and even I on my little portable disk player at work and my low end Sennheiser headphones find them to sound fantastic. They are all out of print at this point.
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Wih Dusty Groove no longer carrying Fresh Sound or Lone Hill, what is best price source for these labels?
I'd like to get the Candoli CD!
Amazon Marketplace, where one of their big guys (Caiman or ImportCD's) will generally have a good price.
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Who cares what games we choose?
Little to win, but nothing to lose.
We live in a world of carnivals and clowns
And buildings to the sky that make us want to fly
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Up with edits, almost 100 gone since posted 2/15! Thanks to all!
FT: autographed Karrin Allyson - Daydream CD
in Offering and Looking For...
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I have a CD of Karrin Allyson - Daydream, autographed by the artist, that I got awhile ago as part of a lot on Ebay. As I have no idea how to determine a "fair" price on something like that, I'd like to just find a good home for it and trade it for something interesting to someone who would like to have it. I'm not an autograph guy. If this CD is of interest to you, send me a list of CD's you'd be willing to trade one of for it.