CJ Shearn

It's like going to the bathroom at a club! $10 a month to lose the commercials. I'd rather put that toward adding to my collection and not sink $120/year and walk away with nothing. And, if $10/month is the introductory rate, eventually it will rise up in cost just like an eMusic membership. They'll make it $25/month and start limiting the number of listening minutes. There will be extra charges for "lightning fast, guaranteed streams" and other bullshit. No thanks. I'll take my guaranteed commercial free iPod, loaded with tracks off MY compact discs and vinyl. Right on! There's also no guarantee the albums you want, listen to on a frequent basis will always be there with these services. Also, there are albums with missing tracks, so for whatever reason they had trouble getting the rights to full albums there are only 1 or 2 cuts.

Yes, it would be nice to know if the estates have a say in what gets put there. I checked out the links to the Kenny Drew Trio recordings for example and the cover to the Fresh Sound reissue popped up, so, it seems they are not using the official sources for some obscure titles, like "Profile" by Duke Pearson. I wonder if there are plans to include long OOP recordings including those from the 80's and 90's. The app is not as cool as being able to grab "Blue Lights" off my shelf, but it is nice.

I checked the app out, I think it's pretty nice and serves as a decent educational tool for those who are starting out with Robert Glasper or those with just the typical handful of discs. The app isn't aimed at people like us but it would be nice to have pictures of the original vinyl, pressing history from Liberty/UA/Capitol, how to spot original pressings etc. Discs I don't have from using the app will have to be purchased used eventually and, I hope they use the app to digitally get OOP stuff back out there.

That made me go put on the "Do Watcha Wanna" album, so funky.

Makes sense MG, but with the high level of improvisation on "The Sermon" and "Houseparty", it baffles me that they'd be used as party tracks, "The Sermon" I could see being used for that, but "Au Privave", "JOS" and "Just Friends", I am not sure. I grew up on those records always critically listening. It's sort of like how today most casual jazz fans might put Miles on as background or smooth jazz b/c the other stuff is too challenging. Though yours' and Chuck recollection of the social implications of JOS' music and Blue Note seems consistent with how people in my dad's side of the family used that music to function in their lives.

happy birthday Trane.

MG thanks for that information on JOS. Now, "The Sermon" and "Houseparty" you said were not hits, were they considered more musician centered/hardcore fan Jimmy Smith records compared to others? I could see how "Groovin at Smalls", "Club Baby Grand", and "At the Organ" would be of less interest to people who might have liked the typical blues based tunes like "Bubbis", BATCS and "Midnight Special".

Stores around here. "Sleeper" at Amazon was not cheap even. Most single ECM's are $18.99 in brick and mortar stores.

Front album cover photos in the booklet, but not on the sleeves for the CD's, which are plain white cardboard with album title printed. Missed opportunity there. It's a neverending conundrum to be sure. When the consumers get prices they like, they're often reluctant to understand that those lower prices come at a cost. Record companies are not charitable organizations. Printing color covers on the sleeves would have meant higher prices for the sets. Then we'd be complaining about the higher prices instead of the lack of "proper" cover art. ECM obviously decided that its customer base prefers economic integrity over aesthetic beauty. I personally have no problem with that, and wish that more record companies saw it the same way. I've never paid less than near $20 for a single ECM CD and close to $40 for doubles ("Travels", "80/81", "Sleeper") so the Jarrett set, the only box I have in that series was a good price, the packaging of those reminds me of classical boxsets. I got a mint copy of "La Scala" used for $8 tho, so thats the cheapest ECM CD I've ever bought.

Got it but haven't watched it yet, definitely will!

Ok, sorry about that post then, but I agree on Toussaint.

"Walter L." is something Pat Metheny said he paid tribute to on the "Quartet Live" version of the same tune on the 2009 release.

Agreed Jeff, asd I've been diving into New Orleans music courtesy of a good friend, Touissant is very important, I often just ignore Mr. Lowe's comments on this forum.

Water Babies is terrific. By then, the band was as one, and my friend and I were talking over dinner about just how dynamic Tony was then.

This originally was going to be a live recording at a Brooklyn warehouse, recorded to analog and with a horn section, and Tain Watts as drummer. Tain told me that he had to unfortunately leave the project, which was funded on Kickstarter. Tain has a growing family also, I was looking forward to hearing Lonnie and Tain.

Damn, hope he's ok

The Miles title is great. I had asked Jason Olaine on FB about the series once, never got a response.

That would be a shame if they did, in lieu of official releases. Maybe the series did not sell well?

I just have a few of these, listened to the excellent Monterey Quartet disc a few days, but what happened? There were supposed to be releases by Joe Henderson and Grover Washington Jr a few years ago I thought? It was a great label.

Roy is a boss!

Yes, that was me Epistrophy but I don't remember that thread in particular. I'm not well versed in EFI like others here but I certainly know the sound. I think players like Bobby must have been listening to more out 20th century classical and avant garde, Stockhausen, Varese, etc and the influence was synthesized out of that.

The passage about why Chambers isn't more well regarded, is exactly my thinking. Those tunes on the second half of the album, plus portions of "Dialogue", Moncur's "Some Other Stuff" ("Gnostic" especially), the free tunes on "Happenings" and "Oblique" all seem to me to be a precursor to the European improv scene, the ECM sound, etc......

I've only heard "Birdboy" from this, a rather strange vibe, reminded me of something from "Tutu" but something makes me want to hear that often. Edit: wrong album, that's Multikulti

6 bonus tracks according to Amazon, Ken. The live date features a young Larry Grenadier and Donald Bailey.

Wynton appearing with Santana on a well circulated 1981 Live Under the Sky show (Wynton with electric keyboards!) Pat Metheny with Steely Dan at a club in NY in the 90's....... not unusual but unexpected in that Pat played with them Chick Corea with the Foo Fighters Paul Dunmall in Johnny Guitar Watson's horn section