CJ Shearn

That sucks!

Would be interesting to hear your thoughts Larry. One of the most ridiculous claims he makes is that Wayne's tone is brash, loud and shows a need to "assert masculinity", and his dislike of the Plugged Nickel dates among other non music related topics.

Sorry Jim, I really didn't know. I just wanted to get people's thoughts because I thought he is dead wrong on Wayne's music, and also thank you for clarifying that theory Big Wheel. I didn't study that b/c I'm not a musician but I thought "wait a minute D sus to D major seems totally logical!" Perhaps the NYU program Hoffman is a graduate of does have a very strict view on what's "correct" in jazz, I have no idea.

In Hoffman's definition of music if it doesn't have clear voice leading or logical harmony or rhythm, clear rules it sucks. Wayne's use of non functional harmony is cool, and makes things more interesting than just a standard II-V-I or I-VI-II-V thing. Every argument was weak, and by the look on his face, he knew it. I got a similar feeling when Robert Glasper said (and he wasn't as literal as this guy) forget about Bird and Trane and focus on now, Glasper got very defensive. Also, so what if Bird or Prez sat still while they played in total concentration? Someone being fully invested in the music with their body isn't bad at all!!!!!

I enjoyed the DVD in that set more than the album, I sold that one. I remember "P.C." being pretty hot on that tho, and the free improvs with Ribot working well.

When I lived in Binghamton, that album was in the bins at a local store. A guy was looking at it, I told him it was bad, and he put it on to preview he liked it b/c it sounded like "horror movie music" Your diatribe on that album wherever it is, is classic! And yes, Jonah Johnathan is a bassist.

I felt the interviewer was intimidated by Ron Carter when he interviewed him and it was awkward. His Mulgrew Miller interview was ok b/c Mulgrew taught him.

I understand his mentor was Barry Harris who is conservative musically past bop but man............... The examples he cites of Wayne's harmony being crude are disproven by of course, courses on his music, dissertation. Even someone like me and others on this board who never studied theory, know by our ears Wayne is a great writer/soloist. He COMPLETELY misses the point of the Plugged Nickel set, Miles was breaking the form down and reconstructing it to see what could be done and that's why it's so great! The faith stuff, that's not the part of the board to get into, but the guy's whole view of jazz is so........ why does jazz have to be a clear system? I suppose Bruce Lee's jeet kune do is not valid for him because it disregards what's not practical in traditional martial arts. Not showing emotion in jazz? Get out of here! The video really hit me wrong on all levels, especially after I was lead to it from the great Lovano interview of Shorter. Wayne very well may struggle on "Birdlike", but that quirkiness is what makes it worthwhile.

Apparently I missed this controversy until today. Was this video posted here? The criticism is valid, but the evidence he uses is very weak. Music doesn't have to be in a logical straight line.

Thank you Justin! That's right, they did release Konitz Peacock and Baron. The few releases I have of them like Elvin Jones and Tain Watts (which I still maintain nearly 9 years after the recording/release has the best live Kenny Garrett on record) are nice.

His label was a subsidiary of Half Note Records, and I don't believe they are still operating.

Wow, very impressive at 20 indeed, the tone isn't quite there but pretty amazing!

Beautiful rememberance by Payton. Mulgrew was a deep cat and critically I think that got taken for granted.

Does that include "M"? Which AFAIK has never been out on CD. It was used on the CD's for the jazz history course I TA'ed, and dug it.

Thanks. I didn't realize they are playing "Live at Yoshi's vol. 2" I was thinking "I need to get this" but I have it!

Does he have enough material for a Mosaic of early recordings?

He's probably playing with Tony and Woody again to be sure. http://youtu.be/TPdPEBksCAw

That's a great tune how they use the "Poinciana" groove to add a different flavor. That CD, it's been that price at Amazon Marketplace since before his death but sellers want over $200 for a new copy!

Damn, this is a shame, such a great player.

Thank goodness he's still here.

I always liked Jazooo's posts, HLJ's short posts with "peace.and all that." at the end are amusing. DEEP's personality is not missed. I remember when avant garde fans crapped on mainstream ones, a guy (coypu?) trying to claim death metal (I think it was JC) superior to jazz.

Valerie, do you know if he received care within 3 hours of his stroke? I've heard thats generally when the effects of strokes can be lessened.

Agreed. Again, his chops are so great that the fact he's so good is subtle. One of my fav. solos by him is on Tony's "Angel Street", the studio version. Also "Third Quadrant" on Kenny Garrett's maligned "Simply Said". Think I'll pull out "Live at the Kennedy Center, Vol. 2"

I don't think anyone has anything bad to say about Mulgrew. I think he's so consistent it's so hard to realize sometimes how good he is.

Might need to spin Kenny Garrett's "Beyond the Wall". Despite the sound sucking, it's great music.