Right, and the accessible forms of jazz to the general populace, didn't the snobbery exist in every era? People who liked Paul Whiteman I'm sure got ridiculed by those who liked the "real jazz" of Louis Armstrong, King Oliver, those into Glenn Miller or Tommy Dorsey chastized by Basie, Ellington, Fletcher Henderson fans, those who might have gotten into the music with "Time Out" or "Bird With Strings", "Headhunters", etc ("oh that isn't the true Herbie, the true Herbie is on "Empyrean Isles" or with Miles") "Heavy Weather", "First Light" the Pat Metheny Group's "Letter From Home", I can think of many albums that serve as a wider gateway. Then I'd argue what alienates new jazz fans further is when the discussion turns to race or "this is how swinging is, that's not swinging" etc......... The neo swing thing that started with Squirrel Nut Zippers, Brian Setzer, Sharon Jones and the Dap Kings, of course that still reverberates as you were saying.