CJ Shearn

I don't have much to add that hasn't been stated, but I always thought Rouse was probably the best "fit for Monk's music, as great and innovative as Trane's contributions were with Monk (I have about 30 Monk CD's, the majority of the Riverside, Blue Note and Columbia work) and Johnny Griffin as well, there's something about Rouse's tone I really love and he fit the quirk of the music perfect. On Big Band And Quartet In Concert he made a wonderful 1-2 punch with Thad Jones as soloist.

Damn! RIP

Listening to a bit of the live album on Youtube, excellent stuff. I'm hearing some koto like sonorities from Handsley on "Mishkaku's Tale".

Sco is back on Blue Note? Cool, makes sense though because Verve and Universal are connected. Don Was should really corral Lou Donaldson in the studio with George Benson and Lonnie Smith before it's too late.

Thanks man, I'll plan on it.. Well, I knew about free stuff, but not the depth of some of the stuff you have, the McPhee/Nillson Love stuff for example. But for anything in life, including musical perspectives, everyone in life is a teacher to us.

I have moderately high BP myself, it's genetic, both sides, so I take it every day. I am glad you are recovering Scott because you've given me different perspectives on free improvisation, which is a good thing.

This. Which was the point I tried to make in my article but it did not come off well.

I definitely hear everyone's points. Lenny White lamented on the fact physical media is on the decline in our interview. He said essentially there was an experience and authenticity to browsing for LP's/CD's that is lost with streaming. The effort it took finding the latest Brad Mehldau Trio disc in Barnes and Noble with their current system was gargantuan to say the least. I can say for me as a collector it's a bit sad but I've gone to receive all digital media for possible promo CD's. In ECM's case the WAV files and digital booklets are as good as the CD. My HP Pavilion laptop (I have mine, and my mom's) I've used for 5 years, the disc drive pretty much quit opening/closing, and I had to use the paperclip in the pinhole method to open it. The last discs ever in there were the new Trane, when I backed it up on my external hard drive. For other interests I have like video games, I have a mix of digital copies, and physical copies. For series' I really enjoy like the Yakuza games, I have the special edition versions with steel books or art books, but for CD only bought maybe less than this year: the deluxe editions of the first four Phil Collins albums, the Miles Trane Bootleg Series, Vol. 6, the new Trane, and Brad Mehldau trio discs. I think as long as a stream/download is decent quality, and you can back the files up, that's some solace to me. Players to play physical medium will always be out there in some fashion.

Very cool, looking forward to the release

This is a really cool homage to one of my favorite games of all time that I still play semi competitively occasionally, and the appearance of two pro Street Fighter players was pretty nice too, interesting how these two worlds intersect.

I hear what you are saying, Brad which is why I removed the article from here. Yes, it was a bit snarky in the board characterization, but for people to get so heated about her thing is silly, just move on if you don't like it. It's silly even in retrospect how I used to diss Herbie's disco and R&B stuff when I was younger and was so adamant that pre Sunlight Herbie was the real Herbie and vice versa. When I bought that Columbia box I really listtened, even to the stuff I didn't like and my attitude changed. I've noticed though that if there is something in jazz using a particular pop trend like Glasper, or Kamasi Washington, Kelly, it gets shot down by some here, and that's what I was trying to get at. I don't dig Grace's stuff that much either and it's fun and she should do it if it makes her happy. Clearly posting that here was a mistake, I admitted it and that's that, you know? Hey, I got a close friend who loves GRP, I don't love it, but he kind of changed my perspective not to just automatically trash it. I'm even more tolerant of smooth jazz than I used to be, doesn't mean I like it, but there is good smooth and bad smooth.

Point taken. Originally I wasn't going to post that to the thread but I thought what was going on was pretty crazy so I had to say it. But, you are right, it was a mistake to post it here, but at the time I thought the outrage here was absurd. There are plenty of fine open minded folk here who have done a lot to help my listening habits, and awareness of things, but the truth is this audience is not who she's targeting. Take for example those here that don't dig the Robert Glasper Experiment:: Sure, the music isn't necessarily "new" if you knew the history and reference points, and I think the reactions were to PR of it being something new that was a trigger-- but hey, he's being a gateway to the music and it's great. I do think anyone would see the uproar over Grace's dancing, look at the board and be either very confused or turned off.

Hey, that vid was good fun, and is harmless, it's nothing that's going to spark rage in me because it's only going to help expose more people to jazz.

At least "Slow Blues" doesn't feature him hammering at a lick for 2 minutes

I'll have to go for the Shepp!

I hear you. I really enjoyed this one myself, nothing earth shattering but a nice addition. The way you feel about Trane now and how you digested is like how I devoured Jimmy Smith's work. Of course I still listen, but, the way I think of it is now different. "Slow Blues" is indeed interesting , how he fuses his almost Prestige era and Atlantic styles with what he had been doing, those short rocket blast "sheets of sound" phrases. I watched a YT vid of a gentleman reviewing the album which was sponsored by Impulse! (which tells you all you need to know really) he said Trane had been rather sensitive to criticism of that approach, so he wasn't employing it as much, I am not sure I buy that view, but the album is what it is, solid.

I used to have the deluxe edition of Ballads, I preferred the original album over the alternates. Whether that album was a commercial concession I do not think so personally, but listening now to disc 2 of Both Directions At Once, just the first spin, but the alts are of value, especially "Impressions" takes 1 and 2, in a very condensed space, Trane really goes for it, nothing we haven't heard already, but nice nonetheless. This album is not earth shaking the way the PR said, great marketing of course, but it's a nice supplement to what this band did best. Those are my first impressions (pun intended).

Exactly. When I review, I try to see the music for what it is, not what it isn't.

Well, it appears the review, though he praises the music on one level, his expectations were that the music was going to be on the same level as the live performances of the period which I think, is unfair. " Whatever reticence a listener might experience with the new album isn’t musicological but emotional: the spiritual temperature of the music is lower, its moments of glorious invention have a logical and inviting air that never quite matches the self-exploring, self-transcending volatility of Coltrane’s very best recordings, whether made in concert or in the studio. (It’s impossible to know whether the quartet just didn’t reach its heights of inspiration that day, or whether, under the influence of Thiele and related commercial considerations, they deliberately restrained their most extreme energies.) “Both Directions at Once” is a marker of Coltrane’s work at the time rather than the very best of it. It’s as if the band were displaying what it is that they do when they do it, without quite doing it. "

I too hope to listen with unbiased ears when the discs arrive later today. I have the feeling the music will be good, but as you said earlier in the thread nothing we haven't heard already. I hope this is truly a worthy addition to the canon. Interesting, because the New Yorker review I read, it seemed the reviewer Richard Brody felt the music was on low boil. He felt Bob Thiele was appealing to commercial concessions, in the vein of Ballads and John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman, but I don't see how that's accurate judging from hearing the link of "Untitled 11383"

I guess there is no point then in these. It looks like the CD's have no bonus tracks either, which for Home Cookin' especially, they are quite nice. Thank you.

I see scheduled for release tommorrow there are 5 original album sets released for Jimmy Smith, Kenny Burrell and Freddie Hubbard. I have no need for the Smith or Burrell unless the masterings are greatly upgraded, but I could fill in holes with Open Sesame and Goin Up from the Hubbard set. Anyone know who might have some of the other sets in this series if they use new masterings?

Thanks everyone!

Very sad, RIP