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Looks like Copeland could do with a shot of the monkey glands Summers must be on.

A pretty good batch. I can see me acquiring all of those at some point. Don't overlook the Thad Jones. It's a nice one.

Even that manages to screw up the original release information.

Got the JSP (before the Sony came out). IIRCC, there are some innaccuracies in the recording data (if that's important to you). The set is very playable, though.

Oh, yeah, it was this one. Four and a half stars on AMG! It's been years since I played this, but I certainly don't recall Zawinul's "lively, funky electric piano". I just heard dull, as far as I remember.

I had (probably still have) one, the title of which escapes me. I saw in on LP going cheap and it had Zawinul on it, so I picked it up. A snooze fest, typical of CTI's worst excesses. Don't think I played it more than twice (the second time to make sure it sucked as badly as I thought it did the first).

JUDAS!

Chewy doesn't like ECM. We get it.

The cab driver who drove me home earlier was playing a CD of Dolly Parton. I now can't get 'Coat of Many Colors' out of my head. I should have walked.

I think what we've learned from this thread is that you can pretty much buy any Stan Getz and you won't go far wrong (with the exception of his dubious soft fusion period in the mid 70s). Stan's 80th today. Playing a few of these to celebrate.

Yep, Sid's Ahead on 'Milestones'. He'd also recorded it previously on Blue Note with the title 'Weirdo'.

I have a version of it by Paul Bley with Charles Mingus and Art Blakey, recorded November 30, 1953 from the sessions for Introducing Paul Bley (Debut), although it wasn't included on the original album. The CD booklet credits 'writer unknown'. (Coincidentally, that album also includes a version of Walkin' that pre-dates Miles' by five months)

You'll note I used the word "autobiography" in quotes. Not the most reliable source of information, of course. It would seem to have a vague ring of truth about it. While with Charlie Parker, Miles had written 'Donna Lee' although it got credited to Bird. According to John Szwed in 'So What' "On the advice of his father, Davis registered the composition [of Boplicity] under his mother's maiden name, to make sure his rights were protected." Here's another question that's always bugged me... who wrote 'Nardis'? Again, Miles got the credit... I seem to recall someone somewhere saying that Miles got the tune from 'some dead guy'. Wish I could remember where I saw that quote. Anyway, beautiful tune.

Yes, I've seen Walkin' (or 'Gravy') attributed to both. Seems Carpenter's theft of Mundy's compositions isn't limited to 'Walkin''. This is from James Gavin's biography of Chet Baker, Deep In a Dream: In the manner of the quickie bop-record dates of the fifties, when albums were done in a day with hardly any rehearsal. Baker and his group showed up at each session and basically winged it. Jimmy Mundy sat in the control room, anonymously churning out songs for which Carpenter took credit. "He was writing the next tune while we were recording the tune before," said [Kirk] Lightsey. Carpenter had brought along a bundle of Tadd Dameron's music, plus a few Sonny Stitt pieces on which he claimed coauthorship. Seems like Carpenter ripped off everyone who came in contact with him.

Of course, we may be making a mistake by assuming that anyone 'wrote' 'The Theme'. We are, after all, talking about a riff tune based on the 'I Got Rhythm' changes. Sometimes these things just evolve on the bandstand, passed fom one player to the next. By default, whoever records it first gets the composer credit. Did Bird really 'write' 'Now's The Time'? Probably not.

From Miles' "autobiography": Me and Gil wrote 'Boplicity' but credited it to my mother, Cleo Henry, because I wanted it in a different publishing house than the one I was signed with. So I just put her name on it.

who actually wrote "Walkin" That was Gene Ammons.

Are you talking about the same tune?

The folks.... Proof that genetics sometimes takes a holiday.

Another DVD worth picking up is Vintage Getz recorded in Napa Valley in 1983 with Jim McNeely, Marc Johnson and Victor Lewis. Don't know if these have been mentioned yet (too lazy to go back and scan the thread! ).... Recorded Fall 1961, a great session with Brookmeyer, Kuhn & Roy Haynes The Dolphin and Spring Is Here (both Concord and both now available as a 2-CD set, My Old Flame) with Lou Levy, Monty Bugwig & Victor Lewis Stan's 80th birthday is coming up (Feb 2nd), I shall be spinning a few of these

Seems like the time Miles was in L.A. (early 1946) most of the West Coasters were getting to grips with bebop, although it probably had a different wrinkle about it. The Birth of the Cool band was an attempt to get the sound of the Claude Thornhill orchestra (for which Gil Evans had arranged) with as few instruments as possible. Mulligan probably deserves as much credit as anyone.

This is exciting news indeed. Given the gestation period of the Cellar Door box, I won't be holding my breath.

You know, if you listen to Wish You Were Here while watching 24... it doesn't synch up in any way whatsoever. Try it!

Wow. Just like Blue Note.