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It's almost unfair to have an NBA All-Star team playing against countries that don't even really have professional basketball leagues. And even if they do, they don't have anywhere near the depth of talent. I'd rather go back to the U.S. having non-professional basketball players on the U.S. team.

LOL, that sounds like it would have been quite an enjoyable undertaking. Not sure I'd have been able to hold off sampling them as long as you did!

8 Badminton players expelled for trying to lose their matches to secure lower seedings, and thus less competition (or something like that). No offense to any supporters of badminton (or ping pong), but these just don't seem like Olympic sports to me.

Drinking a St. Arnold Summer Pils at the moment. It's a decent summer, beach-type beer. I also managed to pick up a pricey six-pack of St. Arnold's Divine Reserve (No. 12), which was released today, but in a very limited batch. There were lines in most stores up in Houston, where St. Arnold is brewed. They recommend storing it cold for about a year before drinking it, to fully develop. Don't know if I'll be able to wait that long to sample it!

Cool to see the pig over Battersea Power Station at the very beginning of the opening ceremony video!

Not that this really matters anymore in the big scheme of things, but is this more visual evidence of Bonds' juicing during his playing days with the Giants? This is supposedly a current picture of Barry Bonds cycling, which is apparently his new love. He sure looks ALOT smaller all the sudden now that's he's not a baseball crushing power hitter anymore. That certainly suggests to me that his increased head size and body mass wasn't just a natural effect of aging. Link at Deadspin

There have already been some women's soccer matches - North Korea won (despite being confused with the South Korean team) and the U.S. team beat France as well.

In college football the overall all-time wins leader is John Gagliardi, with 484 wins at the Division III level. He's 85 years old and still coach at St. John's University in Minnesota. At the Division I level, the all time leader is Eddie Robinson at Grambling, with 408 wins.

NCAA could fine Penn State as much as $60M as part of Sandusky sanctions Initial indications are a penalty of $30-$60M!

As a sidenote, I really enjoyed Copland's first duet recording with Greg Osby, I think it is called Round & Round but would have to check later. Haven't heard their other recording yet.

Freeh's report was an independent report that PSU paid him for. It is his findings, given back to the school. Why shouldn't it say what he found out? I don't think he jumped to any conclusions, and based his findings on documented information in Penn State's possession, as I understand it. By all accounts, everybody else is free to do their own investigation, as Paterno's family has already stated they aren't accepting Freeh's report as the final word.

We're talking about it today because Penn State released their findings today. Today is the first day we've had a chance to read about it, and hence talk about the report. We talked about the case when it first came into the public eye, and we talked about it during the trial. That doesn't make any sense to you? Have at it. I just think it's a separate and perhaps bigger issue than the topic of this thread.

You've been essentially talking about a separate issue, IMO. Not the specific issue at Penn State, but trying to divert the discussion to something else. Your position may be valid, but it's only tangentially germane to Sandusky's perversions. I think that's why nobody's really engaging you on it.

This is a bulletin board - people chat. How is chatting about a topical event a waste of time on a chat board? Yes, we all knew what Sandusky was convicted of, but this report firms up how much Paterno knew and when he knew it. It confirms he deserves the condemnation that most of us felt he was due. I do agree generally that nobody is going to change anybody else's mind, but it's interesting to see how people justify their positions.

Happy (late) Birthday, Barak! All the best!

I'm not sure how you got that conclusion out of anything I said, or anybody else. By not doing more, and not doing anything very quickly at all, he enabled Sandusky. He also effectively enabled him by allowing him continued access to the PSU facilities with little boys when he KNEW Sandusky had been fired for likely abusing little boys. I hope you'd agree as a Debate Coach (or whatever you claimed to be in the past) that enabling somebody and being the reason somebody does something are two different things.

Is that a combination of Something About Mary and Chasing Amy? I actually like both of those, the first being (for me) a good stupid movie, and the second a good Kevin Smith flick.

Happy Birthday!

Dumb & Dumber is stupid good. As is.....The Three Amigos! Adam Sandler flicks, almost always not stupid good.

Blame CERTAINLY deserves to be foisted upon Paterno (and numerous others). He knew prior to the McQueary incident about Sandusky's issues, and continued to allow him around the PSU football facilities with young children. Surely he knew things weren't right for those children. Then when McQueary tells him he witnessed something improper, it was Paternor's responsibility RIGHT THEN to report it. Not wait for days. He enabled Sandusky, from the time Sandusky was forced to retire through and including the McQueary incident. End of story. Nobody is agreeing with your viewpoint, Goodspeak. At all. I hope you're quicker to report things when you find out about them than McQueary and Paterno were. For the victim's sakes.

Nobody's arguing that point.

I'd forgotten Sandusky had been retired by the time of McQueary's witnessing of the shower rape. It doesn't change the fact that it occurred in the athletic facilities that Paterno was ultimately head of, though. And Paterno had a responsibility to do more than just mention it to his boss, especially knowing that Sandusky essentially had free reign of those facilities.