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I have compiled a list of the missing tracks and sessions. This is not a discography but a survey there are many more issues of these recordings. I chose to mention Cd's that have complete sessions often Classics combined with Neatwork. The dates are European style. Tracks missing from sessions Don Byas Mosaic set: 12-9-1944 Hot Lips Page Savoy Lips blues Classics 809 Hot Lips Page 1940-1944 Blooey idem Blooey Neatwork RP2064 Hot Lips Page 1937-1949 18-9-1944 Buck Ram’s All Stars Savoy Morning mist Classics 819 Cozy Cole 1944 Ramsession idem 21-11-1944 Cozy Cole and his orchestra Continental Memories of You Classics 865 Cozy Cole 1944-1945 When day is done idem The beat idem 4-1-1945 Clyde Hart’s All Stars Continental I want every bit of it Classics 888 Dizzy Gillespie 1945 That’s the blues idem Dream of you idem 9-1-1945 Dizzy Gillespie Sextet Manor I can’t get started Classics 888 Dizzy Gillespie 1945 26-2-1945 Timmie Rodgers & His Orchestra Regis A good deal Classics 923 Benny Carter and his Orchestra 1943-1946 27-2-1945 Savannah Churchill and her Orchestra Manor Daddy daddy Classics 923 Benny Carter and his Orchestra 1943-1946 19-3-1945 Cozy Cole Guild Stompin’ at the Savoy Classics 865 Cozy Cole 1944-1945 Dat’s love idem April 1945 Cozy Cole Guild Strictly drums Classics 865 Cozy Cole 1944-1945 Night wind idem Why regret idem Now’s the time idem September 1945 Hot Lips Page Continental Corsicana Classics 950 Hot Lips Page 1944-1946 Sunset blues idem Big trees blues idem Florida blues idem November-December 1945 Earl Bostic Majestic The man I love Classics 5005 Earl Bostic 1945-1948 The major and the minor idem 7-1-1946 Benny Carter DeLuxe Who’s sorry now? Classics 923 Benny Carter 1943-1946 8-1-1946 Benny Carter DeLuxe I’m the caring kind Classics 923 Benny Carter 1943-1946 and Classics 1020 Maxine Sullivan 1941-1946 Looking for a boy idem 29-1-1946 Don Redman Pick-up Midnight mood Classics 24 Complementary tracks Carrie Mae blues idem The sessions not included: 12-2-1944 Albert Ammons Commodore 4 master takes on Classics 927 Albert Ammons 1939-1946. Complete session on Mosaic MR23-128 (LP) The complete Commodore jazz recordings vol. 2 and CD Commodore 824297 Boogie Woogie and the Blues. 16-2-1944 Coleman Hawkins Apollo Classics 807 Coleman Hawkins 1943-1944 22-2-1944 Coleman Hawkins Apollo Classics 842 Coleman Hawkins 1944 2-5-1944 Eddie Haywood Signature Classics 947 Eddie Heywood 1944 24-5-1944 Coleman Hawkins Keynote 4 master takes on Classics 842 Coleman Hawkins 1944, alternate take on Neatwork RP 2011 Coleman Hawkins volume 2 1943-1944. Complete session on Mercury 830960-2 The essential Keynote vol. 6 the complete Coleman Hawkins 5-6-1944 Mary Lou Williams Ash Classics 814 Mary Lou Williams 1944 29-9-1944 Hot Lips Page Commodore 4 master takes on Classics 809 Hot Lips Page 1940-1944 The alternate takes (except the 2 composite takes) on Neatwork RP2064 Hot Lips Page 1937-1944 Complete session Mosaic MR23-128 (LP) The complete Commodore jazz recordings vol. 2 4-12-1944 Trummy Young Signature probably never issued 2-2-1945 Cozy Cole Keynote Classics 865 Cozy Cole 1944-1945 10-1-1946 Leonard Feather’s Esquire All American RCA Victor Bluebird 6757-2 Esquire’s All-American Hot Jazz Sessions 22-2-1946 Dizzy Gillespie RCA Victor 4 master takes on Classics 935 Dizzy Gillespie 1945-1946. Complete session on Masters of Jazz MJCD119 Dizzy Gillespie volume 6 1945-1946, Bluebird 66528-2 Complete RCA Victor Recordings 19-8-1946 Teddy Wilson Musicraft Classics 997 Teddy Wilson 1946 6-12-1946 Don Byas/Tyree Glenn/Peanuts Holland Swing Classics 1009 Don Byas 1946 Turned out I only miss the Albert Ammons alternates from 12-2-1944. This will be soon remedied.

According to the notes in the booklet with Classics 1037 Trummy Young 1944-1946 Signature 15005 was announced it was never released. Lord gives Signature 15006.

Mayby annoying. But the set will be 10 Cd's. Lester Young had 2 sets with a total of 12 (including the Basie Decca's he did not solo on) Coleman Hawkins had 8, Chu Berry 7. More CD's would probably make the set much harder to sell. There are 40 previously unknown tracks. In the 'C' section with recordings on 'orphaned' labels there are (if i counted correctly) 13 labels involved. A reason I thought there would never be a Don Byas Mosaic at all. I'm glad I was wrong. Most of the the reisusses of Bix and Tram were unlicensed or bootlegs depending on where you live. They didn't have to worry about who owns wich label. Makes live a lot easier.😄

Did not expected this. But this is a must have.

A small correction: This volume contains from the Mosaic Big Band box disc 3 and 4 tracks 1-14 for the master takes and 19-24 for the alternate takes. (Tracks 15-18 from 1934 will be the opening tracks of vol. 6.) From the RCA box the remainder of disc 6 and from disc 7 tracks 1-4. No takes missing.

Ellington in Order so far used recordings previously issued on CD from the big RCA box and The Okeh Ellington. The Okeh Ellington has 50 tracks thus there was no room to include the 5 alternate takes. One off them is on the Frog CD. The two sessions you mention are the only Sony owned recordings on the Frog CD.

Volume 3 is on line. Only the 2 alternative takes of ‘Sweet Mama’ and ‘Double Check Stomp’ from 12-6-1930 are not included. Included is the Trombone Red and his Blue Six session from 18-6-1931. Both Rust and Lord give a fantasy line up with Ellington as possible piano. But the Ellington band played in Philadelphia that day. And Jabbo Smith was either in Milwaukee or Chicago that day. The missing Columbia/Okeh tracks from volume 2 might be added at a later day. Volume 4 will start with the first Brunswick session of 1932. Of course the 30’s were covered by 2 Mosaic sets. So the following volumes should be complete.

This is my grasp of the situation: CBS held on to the Okeh and Columbia recordings and sold the Pathé and Plaza recordings to EMI. The complete Ellington 2 LP sets that appeared on French CBS were produced by EMI and they could use the Pathé and Plaza recordings. EMI got sold to Warner and Universal. And now Sony can’t use the Pathé and Plaza recordings. Why only part of the Okeh Ellington is used in this series is a mystery. Let’s hope it gets solved before the treasure of Oak island.

They should be these recordings are Sony owned.

The Mosaic boxes ‘1932-1940 Brunswick/Columbia/Master Duke Ellington’ and ‘Duke Ellington 1936-1940: small group sessions’ are not part of the RCA Victor box.

From the DUKE LYM mail list: The new release is not including several Columbia / OKeh sessions (April 4, May 28, August 2, November 20, 1929; April 3, 1930); shouldn't they be owned by Sony as well? After 1928, it is focused on the RCA Victor material. Chuck Granta sorted out this in a comment he asked me to puplish on the DESS' website and Ian Bradley has also published it. Here is his comment. "Some collectors may be under the impression that because those labels were at one time owned by ARC that Sony Music still has the rights to them. That is incorrect; those labels were sold to EMI way back in the late 1930s, when CBS formed their radio business and bought the old ARC and revived the Columbia name in the United States. There are definitely some perplexities when it comes to all of this label ownership business, so I understand the confusion! For example, in France, EMI distributed some recordings under the 'Columbia' and 'CBS' banners.Therefore, they issued the Complete Duke Ellington series on LP under the CBS label. Many of the tracks are Columbia-owned masters. However, because EMI also owned the rights to the Pathé and associated label recordings, they were able to 'co-mingle' the sides that EMI had the French rights to with the Columbia-owned sides that they had licensing for in France." ---- EMI was sold in 2012 mostly to Universal and partly to Warner (EMI classical and Parlophone). After some research my best guess is that the Pathé Plaza recordings are now owned by Universal. That means that from volume 1 only the alternate take of Back and Tan Fantasy is missing. It's on Masters of Jazz volume 3. Volume 2 covers the Victor recordings from CD 2 track 5 tot CD 4 track 9. From the Okeh Ellington CD 1 tracks 23, 34 and 25 and from CD 2 tracks 1-11 are missing and also the alternate takes of The Mooche and East St. Louis Toodle-oo not included on The Okeh Ellington. The are on Masters of Jazz volume 10. About the Pathé Plaza recordings: 10 sessions yielded 42 tracks. Most of them are spread over all 12 Masters of Jazz volumes. Missing are from 10-1-1931 Rocking Chair take 3 wich was not included because of the poor sound quality. And I'm so in love with you wich would have been the first track of Volume 13 that was never issued. It is included on Classics 605 Duke Ellington 1930-1931.

9 albums on 6 CDs. https://www.mosaicrecords.com/product/the-complete-sonny-clark-blue-note-sessions/

This set is has gone quietly o.o.p. Still available at Jazzmessengers.

No vocal track was left of either Mosaic Ellington 30's set. The Goodman and Shaw boxes on the other hand....

The vocals are cut out. Not filtered away something like that. The tracks are shorter. But the person who did this made shure there are no skips in the beat.

Last week the latest issue of Blue Light the magazine of DESUK arrived. It came with a CD The Expurgated Ellington. a man called Graham Colombé removed the vocals from 33 recordings by Ellington from 1928-1931. Technically it is done well. But I don't like tampering with the originals. What ever one thinks about the singers they are part of the recording. Graham calls all singers inferior. I wouldn't call the Rhythm Boys with Bing Crosby or Chick Bullock inferior. And I quite like the singing of Irving Mills. The CD has no label or catalog number so I don't think this CD will be made available generally.

This compilation covers CD 1 and 2 up to track 4 of the big RCA box and CD 1tracks 1-19 of the Okeh Ellington. Leaving out the alternate take of Black and Tan Fantasy. Also the Pathé and Plaza group sessions are missing. In total 15 tracks are missing.

I have this CD with his music for years now. Chestnut Brass Company and the track listing.

I don’t doubt that. Unfortunately I’m not a vip.

'Big Alice' and 'The Call' on the CD version are not unissued they are on the Rhino CD version of 'Mingus Moves'. 'Music for Todo Mondo' is the only unissued take on the CD version. On the CD 'Cumbia & Jazz Fusion' the 2 takes of Wedding March/Slow Waltz are missing on both the LP and CD version. They are on the Rhino CD issued in 1994. A resounding NO from me for this set.

Yes I am going. Thursday I’ll take the Thalys from Rotterdam to Paris Nord. I’ve got tickets for all events and looking forward to it.

Yes this is it.

This was one of the first LP's I bought. It was then called Ben Webster and Friends and had a painted cover of Ben's face. I've always loved it.

I went through the Frankie Newton disco on the JazzArcheology.com - Your Guide to the Treasures of Vintage Jazz | JazzArcheology.com site. Frankie recorded for a lot of labels. Between 1929-1939 he recorded 85 sides (including 9 without a FN solo) for labels now owned by Sony. The rest is scattered over Decca, Blue Note, Commodore, Asch, Savoy, National and Disc. I'm afraid not much chance for a Mosaic.

The recordings of Hot Lips Page are spread over many labels. But on sets with Commodore swing groups and Savoy swing groups he could feature prominently.