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I like Sirius a lot. Granted, he plays with a certain sense of world weariness, but he has a lot to say. Here is some later (post-Sirius) Hawk courtesy of Lord: Coleman Hawkins Vs. Oscar Peterson & Don Byas Vs. Teddy Wilson : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Oscar Peterson (p) Sam Jones (b) Bobby Durham (d) Live "Falkonercentret", Copenhagen, Denmark, October 22, 1967 (Medley Moon (It)MLP018-1, MCD018-2 [CD] Moonglow - - Sweet Georgia Brown - - September song - - Stuffy - - Note: The rest of Moon (It)MLP018-1, MCD018-2 [CD] by Don Byas, October 23, 1967. [H3282.10]Add Coleman Hawkins Quintet : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Lou Bennett (org) Paul Weeden (g) Hugo Rasmussen (b) William Schiopffe (d) Copenhagen, Denmark, February 12, 1968 All the things you are Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD] Lover come back to me - [H3283]Add Master Of Jazz Vol 12 : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Kenny Drew (p) Niels-Henning Orsted Pedersen (b) Albert "Tootie" Heath (d) Copenhagen, Denmark, February 13, 1968 Lover man Storyville (Dan)SLP4112, STCD4112 [CD] Sweet Georgia Brown - - Note: Both above titles also on Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD]. [H3284]Add Coleman Hawkins Quartet : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Lou Bennett (org) Paul Weeden (g) Albert "Tootie" Heath (d) Live, Copenhagen, Denmark, February 14, 1968 Moonglow Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD] Just you, just me -

John L, Thanks very much for the info from the liner notes That’s very helpful! Exponent_of_Sock, I did a deep dive yesterday in Rust version 6 for Paramount matrices between 1400 and 1700. The information in Rust for this block of matrices does not support the contention that they are not chronological. The matrix numbers for the King Oliver session are consistent with a late December, 1923 recording date. Of course, it’s possible that all the Paramount recording dates are wrong, but this doesn’t seem likely. I was in touch with Tom Lord a few days ago, and he said he made the change based on information from Willems (which traces back to the liner notes). I’m going to share my findings with Lord later today. If any of you want to see the matrix number analysis, send me a PM.

Thanks, I had forgotten the 78discography.com site. The information there concerning nearby matrices looks to be consistent with what I found in Rust. The original Max Vreede Paramount book covers the 12000/13000 series but doesn't include recording dates. Perhaps I can cross reference information there to dates in Blues & Gospel Records.

Thanks! This is helpful. The plot thickens...

Thanks Exponent_of_Sock. I'm quite familiar with Rust in its several editions and of his dating of the session as December 24, 1923. This date is also included in several other sources, including the Laurie Wright Lord King Oliver discography published by Storyville, and earlier versions of Tom Lord's Jazz Discography. It also is the date given in numerous reissues, including the Off the Record, Retrieval, and others. The issue at hand is that a different date (early September 1923) has turned up in the current Tom Lord Jazz Discography, in the Willems Louis Armstrong discography, and in Michael Minn's online Armstrong discography. In that discography, Minn states the following: >>> King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band Early September, 1923?: Chicago, IL A session for Paramount. This recording date is uncertain. Westerberg gives 12/24/23 for this session. Irakli de Davrichewy, discographer for the Media 7 CD series, defends his dating of this session as early September; he makes a convincing case that the earlier attributed date of December 24 is an arbitrary and unlikely choice. Willems concurs with the September date. >>> I want to see what Davrichewy uses to support his early September date. If you look at available Paramount matrix numbers, the King Oliver session fits in between other sessions that are attributed to December 1923. Of course, it's possible that those attributions are wrong as well. That, in short, why I want to see the notes to Volume 1 of the Media 7 Armstrong series, since that volume contains the Paramount session in question. Does anyone have the recent Archeophone Centennial issue and, if so, what if anything do they say about the date of the session?

Does anyone have a copy of the Louis Armstrong Volume 1 on Media7/Masters of Jazz? I'm looking for some information in the notes concerning the dating of the King Oliver sessions for Paramount. Thanks in advance.

There’s this: https://www.kuvo.org/bemsha-swing-stories-of-standards/#:~:text=Thelonious Monk and Denzil Best,where Denzil Best's family originated. I figured that there was probably some information about this in Robin D.G. Kelley's Thelonious Monk - The Life and Times of an American Original. There is. In Robin Kelley's Monk biography, Kelley states that the correct title is "Bimsha Swing" and that "both [Denzil] Best and fellow Barbadian Gary Mapp understood the meaning -- Bimshire was the Phonetic pronunciation of "Bimshire," and Barbados's nickname was "Little Bimshire."

Funny to see this thread revived after close to 12 years! As Big Beat Steve just noted above, the tune appears as "Claudhopper" on the LP with Woellmer listed as composer. The back of the LP can be seen here: This recording is available online. See here for example: https://archive.org/details/dancetosoundofcl00thor

By all rights, this one should have butterflies, but I'll be damned if I can find them! But there are some in these:

Gene DiNovi

I third it. Mailed Friday and arrived today (Monday). What service!

I saw Alan play lots of times in Boston. He was the first call drummer for visiting out of towners. In all those times, he never played vibes (but I know that he did record on them on at least a few occasions.