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1-2 Blue Serge / Blue Serge = 21 Sep. 1946: Ralph Burns Quintet (Dial)
10-13: Pumpernickel / Gabardine and Serge / Serge's Urge / Bar Second = 5 March 1947: Serge Chaloff Sextette (Savoy)
15-17 Chickasaw / Bopscotch / Most = 10 maart 1949: Serge Chaloff & the Herdsmen (Futurama Records)
18-19 Pat / King Edward The Flatted Fifth = 16 Apr 1949: Serge Chaloff & Ralph Burns (Motif Records)
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Cootie Williams recorded "Epistrophy" in 1942, although it may not count because it wasn't released until the 1960's. Coleman Hawkins recorded "I Mean You" in 1946.
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Allrighty then..... any chance you two guys can rub each others magic balls and give us the skinny on the Cuscuna/vinyl matter?
I spoke with Scott Wenzel from Mosaic in late June and he said that Mosaic will be releasing it on vinyl.
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Ol' Scotty has finally been beamed up.
Aye, we'll miss ye.
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A fourth album of standards from Stewart?
I was so hoping for a Christmas album!
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Then it would have to be Idris Muhammad (aka Leo Morris), a participant on many late 60's Prestige dates.
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OK, I'm ready to commit on the 2nd disc. Here goes:
1. On first listen it seemed like Jim was playing a trick on us, splicing a Cannonball intro onto a Brazilian recording. But it seems that this is Cannonball, such at it is. I love the early Cannonball, but wasn’t moved by his solo here. No idea who the singer is. At the end, we do hear Cannonball’s voice.
2. Is this one of Ornette’s things with strings? Very busy and cacophonous. NMCOT
3. “Try a Little Tenderness” Listened to this all the way through, and while I liked the alto player, couldn’t put a name on him. Later it occurred to me that this may be Cannonbball, perhaps from his “Lush Life” albums with strings? Lovely playing.
4. “What a Little Moonlight Can Do” Yes! The late great Etta Jones, in marvelous voice! Assume the tenor is Houston Person. I saw Etta only once, not long before she died, and was gassed.
5. “Without a Song” Freddie Hubbard, from his great “The Hub of Hubbard” album. Eddie Daniels, tenor, Louis Hayes on drums, Richard Davis on bass, can’t remember the piano. Freddie is in great form on this!
6. How many pianos here? I hear at least three, but maybe there are more. It seems like this would work best if one were sitting in the middle with all the pianos surrounding the listener. Might this be the Piano Choir from their Strata-East record? I recall that Stanley Cowell was on that date, can only guess who else.
7. A nice soprano player, good arrangement, although no names pop into my head. Does Bunky Green play soprano as well as alto? I promised myself I wouldn’t cheat by looking anywhere.
8. Althouigh I’m sure there must be others, the only jazz steel pan player I can think of is Andy Narell, although I’m not saying this is him. The trombonist can hit some high notes, and having played trombone I know how hard that is, but overall I think his playing is sloppy. The rhythm section gets a nice groove.
9. If you can’t say something nice………………
10. The tune is vaguely familiar, I think. The band spends too much time playing the head, and not enough time blowing. The soloists try to build excitement too quickly. If everybody had been given a little more time to develop their ideas, and not been in such a hurry to achieve orgasm, this might have been more satisfying. It’s all a bit cluttered.
11. Oh man, this is like, so far out. You don’t know what you’re doing to my head!
An eclectic selection, to say the least, Jim.
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This was recorded about the same time as Monk' Music and it has been demonstrated the mono master of that date is superior to the "experimental" stereo. How is the sonic picture on your copy Brownie?
This is debatable. I like the stereo "Monk's Music". Gigi Gryce/Donald Byrd "Jazz Lab" was issued in stereo originally, but turns up in mono on the CD. I guess it has to do with one's preferences, and probably the system on which one listens. Whoever is making these choices at Fantasy obviously prefers the mono, but doesn't mean that we all will agree with him.
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"Swing Me No Waltzes" (Storyville) was the one that first turned my head. Eventually became an avid fan. I think Hanna is pitifully underappreciated.
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The Verve & Bizzare stuff is still what I like best, but keep in mind that I've come to believe what somebody once said - that the Zappa you hear in your adolescence is that which you end up liking the most as an adult.
I was 24 when Freak Out was issued. Am I disqualified? Frank was a bit older - was he pandering to teens?
Disqualified, no.
Overqualified, maybe.
The point that whoever said that was trying to make, I think, was that Zappa's music, almost all of it, is rooted in a bird-flipping type mentality that's never going to be able to chill out and enjoy the pleasures of "normalacy", if only in passing, and that's an attitude best accomodated by the adolescent and still freshly young adult. Not sure that I totally agree, but I certainly don't disagree.
I was about 21 when Freak Out came out. Up to that point I had been a jazz snob, but was beginning to like some of the rock music that was coming out - Beatles, Beach Boys, et al. Freak Out blew my mind - here was a funky rock & roll bar band with a real cynical perspective. Became an avid Zappa fan, bought everything; saw the band live several times, etc. Zappa didn't play favorites - he lampooned the straight people and the hippies.
I think Uncle Meat is their masterpiece. However, The CD contains a long bonus track that is completely worthless.
I gave up around Apostrophe. The humor was getting more amd more juvenile (and I was approaching 30!). That said, it all sounds very dated to me now. The comedy is a bit stale and forced, the music will be fine and then they'll get silly again.
I'd recommend Hot Rats as a good introduction. Peaches En Regalia is one of Frank's most memorable tunes, and the comedy is kept to a minimum.
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I’ve listened to all of disc one, and here are my comments.
1. “How High the Moon” My first thought when this started was early Jimmy Smith, but after listening for a bit, and not recognizing the tenor player, I began to wonder. Maybe this is a younger group emulating Jimmy’s style?
2. Louis Armstrong – “Cheesecake” OK, Jim’s having some fun with us here. Not one of my favorite moments from the old man, but I guess it’s always nice to hear Pops. Even though this is pretty late (mid-60’s?), his trumpet (what little there is of it) still sounds pretty good.
3. Really liked this, wish the saxophonists could have stretched out a little more, but that probably wouldn’t have pleased the producer! Might these be well known jazzmen moonlighting with a Latin band like Tito Puente?
4. My first thought when this started was Archie Shepp, and as the tenor solo went along, I got to thinking how much Archie recalled Sonny Rollins on this. And then it occurred to me – this IS Sonny Rollins, presumably one of his Milestone records. The trombone is Clifton Anderson, the electric bass Bob Cranshaw. Really don’t care for Sonny’s harsh tone on this, and overall don’t think there’s a lot happening here.
5. “Gone With The Wind” It didn’t take long to realize that this was a joke, a spoof of Dave Brubeck’s popular college albums of the 1950’s. I believe this is from the “Morris Grants Presents J.U.N.K.” album. To this day, I don’t know who’s behind this!
6. “The Man I Love” I think this is from the famous 1947 Pasadena Concert, produced by Gene Norman. The alto is Willie Smith, the trumpet Al Killian I think, possibly Irving Ashby on guitar? Too bad about the fade after the piano solo – I wonder if this may have been originally issued in two parts?
7. Sounds like Gene Ammons, probably from one of his later albums. Poor Jug is practically drowned out by the strings, voices, and what have you. A valiant attempt, but not the Jug of yore.
8. Well, I’m pretty sure that the tenor on the left channel is Archie Shepp. Can’t name the singer or the other tenor player. A gold star to the singer for staying on track with all the distractions. J
9. “Everything’s Coming Up Roses” This has got to be Count Basie, circa mid 1960’s. Eddie “Lockjaw” Davis, tenor sax, Rufus Jones on drums. Trumpet sounds like a flugelhorn, could it be Waymon Reed? My guess that this may be from the Command album “Broadway Basie’s Way”, given the big stereo spread.
10. After the somewhat over the top Basie track, I like the more relaxed groove of this track, although I can’t place the alto player. Might this be Lou Donaldson with Oliver Nelson?
11. “Hi-Fly” A nice vibes player – I’m thinking Walt Dickerson, possibly from one of his Prestige albums? Like this track a lot.
12. The tune is Chick Corea’s “Litha”, but this isn’t either of the versions I know (Stan Getz, Chick Corea). The pianist could be early Chick, I guess, can’t place the tenor player. I know I’m gonna kick myself when I find out who this is!
13. Duke Ellington “Moon Maiden”. Only Duke could get away with this!
14. “Mountain Oysters” Eddie “Lockjaw” Davis, recorded circa 1949. I had this on the old King LP “Risky Blues” years ago. Don’t believe Jaws is the vocalist. however.
15. “Time After Time” Stanley Turrentine, tenor. Only guessing here, but the organ is Shirley Scott? Stanley Sounds great on this tune, which I’ve always loved.
16. This is interesting – a jazz beer ad! I’ve heard of Jax beer, but is Mellow Jack’s a local beer somewhere? Are we supposed to know the singer?
17. Betty Carter specialized in this kind of way down ballad, but this singer strikes me as a little too maudlin (maybe that’s too strong a word). She ain’t Betty.
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No doubts about the music here .....
While we're at it: How many live albums did the Jazz Crusaders do for Pacific, and are they out on CD, OOP or not? These will not be part of the upcoming Mosaic box, as I understand ...
Live at the Lighthouse (1962)
Live at the Lighthouse '66
Lighthouse '68
Lighthouse 1969
Live Sides (Blue Note) more tracks from 1968 sessions
To my knowledge, only the '66 album has been on CD.
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Have always loved this record & consider it to be one of their best. The bonus material (which I haven't heard yet) is from a live date recorded at Shelly's Manne-Hole, most of which was unusable at the time due to the band's not having had sufficient time to learn the material, I'm told.
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Saw it last week. Liked it a lot. Keeps you guessing!
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Received mine today. Have promised myself I won't read anyone's comments until I've listened to the whole thing.
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Looks like your LP is missing a fourth performance: Django plays five choruses on "Ride, red, ride" on that concert.
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I'd also recommend "Live at the Harlem Square Club", a fantastic live recording.
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I would take with a grain of salt any discographical information provided on the CD, as well as the supposed source. Who is Paul Ellington, anyway?
Django did tour with Ellington in late 1946. The only recording I've been able to find is from the Chicago Civic Opera House, November 10, 1946. Django performs three tunes which are entitled Blues, Improvisation No. 2, and Honeysuckle Rose. The second is a solo performance, and sounds like it is probably a Django original. On the other two, Django is backed by the rhythm section, with the full band coming in at the end.
I have this on Prima 01/02, a 2-LP set that appears to be of European, possibly Italian, origin.
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Me too, but I have to say that the tenor players are coming out of Trane as much as out of the usual influences, so their is greater appeal (for me anyway) than many other "soul jazz" groups might generate.
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Barak shares a birthday with Dubya!
So do I.
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Just heard their version of Mello Yellow. Why haven't I been made aware of these guys?
Based on that one song I'm hooked, sign me up, I need it. Killer!
Agreed! This band is a real find! They made several LP's for Cadet in the late 60's - "Mellow Yellow" is the best of them. Both tenor players, Artee "Duke" Payne and Thomas Purvis are MF's!
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I may be able to answer my own question by asking another: How many minutes could you get on a 12 inch 78?
I was checking out V-Disc 760 (Billie Holliday and Louis Armstrong singing "Do You Know What It Means to Miss New Orleans" and noticed that it's 6:34 . V-Discs were 12 inchers usually with the music from 2 10 inch discs per side. (Or were they perhaps one-sided only?)
I had a cd of Billie Holiday V-Discs and was listening because of a question that had been brought up about the Pops/Lady Day "Do you know...." when I noticed how long it was. Actually reading the liner notes for that cd I infer that the V-Discs were one sided. If so a 12 inch 78 could obviously hold 6 minutes +.
Anyone here know much about V-discs? Or about 12 inch 78s in genereal?
The average shellac 12" 78 will hold about 4 1/2 minutes of music. V-Discs are pressed on vinyl, and quite often will hold as much as 6:00 or slightly more. I don't know if the material from which it is made is a factor or not. Btw, V-Discs are 2-sided.
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Attendance of dealers and customers was off somewhat this year. Two longtime regulars, Red Carraro and Lloyd Rausch were missing, both due to illness I was told.
Still, I managed to pick up three Mosaic sets at a discount, a few LP's and about a dozen 78's.
Mainly I go for the hang at this point. It's a lot of the same people every year, and I like to hobnob with the fellow record mutants.
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Ruby recorded two LP's with Dick Hyman playing the pipe organ:
"Fats Waller's Heavenly Jive" (Chiaroscuro)
"America the Beautiful" (Concord)