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According to the Fantasy catalog (2002 print and online), the Prestige CD "Soul Summit includes material by Gene Ammons/Sonny Stitt/Jack McDuff. One track is "Scram" with an R. The dreaded allmusic site credits this to "Feather" presumably Leonard (and ASCAP does list a tune of this title by Leonard Feather) and the narrative says it's played by McDuff with Harold Vick. However, BMI shows a tune by this title composed by Jack McDuff (which I tend to go with here). If it is performed by McDuff, this is the sole title included from a December 1, 1961 session.
Here's the puzzler - several of the other tracks on this CD are by Ammons from April 13, 1962. The final track performed at that session was "Scam" - no R, which according to BMI is a title composed by Gene Ammons.
So........which is it? And was it the same on the original "Soul Summit, vol. 2" LP (7275) or did someone read the title wrong and grab the wrong tape at some point? Or is it all just a coincidence?
Thanks!
Mike
I don't have the CD, but I can tell you what's on the LP's.
"Sock" (7400) contains a tune entitled "Scam" (comp. Ammons) rec. 4/13/62
"Soul Summit Vol. 2" (7275) contains a tune entitled "Scram" (comp. McDuff) rec. 12/1/61.
Don't know if this answers your question!
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Apparently there are several "editions' floating around, but here's one I found....
Yes, I've surfed past this ass! Never caught his name before.Don Lapre is not merely a blast from the past. I swear I've seen him within the last couple of days. Pure slime!
What amazes me is that these guys are obviously making money. Kevin Trudeau has been so ubiquitous in the last decade, that I have trouble believing that there are any suckers left. That's my problem, I keep forgetting the vastness of human stupidity.
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It's been awhile since I've played them (WHAT'S GOIN' ON and REMEMBER ME), but my recollection is that they're good but not (IMO) great. I should spin them again, though (thanks for reminding me).
I'm a big fan of his Vee Jay material, and an even bigger fan of the Jazzland/Milestone recordings (LONG NIGHT / MARCH OF THE SIAMESE CHILDREN).
I agree - Strozier is important enough, and sparsely represented on record, that everything is worth checking out, but the two Steeplechase albums are less interesting to these ears than the earlier sides. The long version of "What's Goin' On" is expendable.
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I think both sets have a lot to recommend them. There is so much great music here. I wonder if Helen Keane's comments related more to the fact that "Consecration" was unauthorized, not whether Bill or anyone else didn't like his performance, which is spectacular, in my opinion.
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9. I believe that this is the Red Mitchell-Harold Land group. That would be Carmell Jones on trumpet, Frank Strazzeri, piano.
11. Again, a familiar tenor, have we already heard him today? The trumpet’s tone reminds me of Kenny Dorham a little, can’t place anybody for certain. Nice drum breaks.
On first listen, in the car, I recognized Harold Land right away, and figured that given the bass theme, this was probably from the Mitchell-Land album. A few days later, writing my comments, I couldn't remember which track that was, and wrongly attributed #9, when it should've been #11! #9 has got the tenor & bass stating the theme, which made sense for this band, although the tenor on #11 is clearly Harold Land, now that I'm awake. Now I have no idea who #9 is. Redfaced...
And not getting Brownie!!! At least I recognized that it was a good trumpet player (understatement).
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1. A variation on “All the Things You Are” – might this be Sam Jones? Pianist reminiscent of Barry Harris.
2. “Turnpike” – J. J. Johnson! A real cooker, great trumpet from Brownie, can’t remember the tenor. Jimmy Heath, maybe? The always masterful Mr. Johnson on bone, Horace on piano, I’d say.
3. This sounds like early Dexter – the only session I can think of with this front line was on Dial. A nice tune – “Mischievous Lady”? Melba Liston on bone?
4. Some nice breezy alto, with props to Bird. Early Frank Morgan? I like the piano, nicely executed ideas. Dammit, I know this tenor player, but am drawing a blank!
5. I’m pretty sure this is Ahmed Abdul-Malik, one of those East-Meets-West things. The oud (?) solo is nice. The trumpet finds himself in unfamiliar territory harmonically, and resorts to conventional licks a few times. Richard Williams? Ahmed switches to bass during the trumpet solo, and the other bassist takes a bowed solo. A nice tenor solo, is it Budd Johnson?
6. I dunno, this seemed like a mess to me. A dumb tune, sloppily played by the ensemble, and then they go into the blowing which has nothing to do with the head. I wanna say Charles Davis on bari, but I’m not sure. OK trumpet solo, nothing special. Again, a tenor that sounds familiar, possibly Johnny Griffin? The pianist tries hard, but seems at a loss for ideas in this modal universe. In places he reminds me of McCoy, but McCoy is usually more elegant. I like the bass player’s full sound, the strumming thing makes me think that it’s Jimmy Garrison. Nice drummer, good thoughtful solo, and then back into that dumb Scottish tune.
7. This I loved! Very Horace Silver-ish. Superb trumpet solo!!! The ideas just flow out. At times I’m thinking Blue Mitchell, at other times Lee Morgan. The tenor could be Junior Cook. Might this be one of the records that came out under Blue’s or Junior’s name featuring Horace’s band without Horace? Piano seems to be Barry Harris.
8. Perhaps it’s the recording, but I’m not thrilled with the bassist’s sound here – a little too rubber-bandish, if you know what I mean. Can’t name the trumpet, but the tenor sounds like Clifford Jordan to me.
9. I believe that this is the Red Mitchell-Harold Land group. That would be Carmell Jones on trumpet, Frank Strazzeri, piano.
10. I Could Write a Book. The vibist has a nice ringing tone a la Bags, but I’m gonna say Lem Winchester.
11. Again, a familiar tenor, have we already heard him today? The trumpet’s tone reminds me of Kenny Dorham a little, can’t place anybody for certain. Nice drum breaks.
12. Now this really sounds like McCoy Tyner, possibly fron one of his Milestone LP’s? I love the Impulse & Blue Note records, but have to confess that I’m less familiar with the Milestones overall. Sonny Fortune on alto?
13. A wonderful capper to this fine BFT! Funky bowed bass – don’t know who it is.
Some really nice selections – eager to find out who some of them are!
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Enjoyed this. Buddy could be a real asshole, but I love to watch him play.
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Issued? No, but Impulse called it "Red Planet" when it was recorded at the Vanguard in 11/61 by Coltrane. And it was called "Red Planet" at the Illinois concert of Dolphy in 3/63 and it was specifically noted as a Dolphy piece on that program.
Gunther Schuller has Dolphy's own music for the piece, using the "Red Planet" title.
Mike
My point exactly. While the Russell album entitled it "Red Planet" by John Coltrane, it wasn't until many years later that the above information came to light.
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it is argued that coltrane's miles' mode was actually written by dolphy and appeared earlier under the title red planet.
Is there an earlier recording of the tune as "Red Planet"? I've never heard of one. I first heard the title "Red Planet" on Pee Wee Russell's "New Groove" from 1963. It wasn't until many years later that the tune was attributed to Dolphy.
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I bought this one when it came out. A couple of the tracks really rock (kinda like King Curtis' "Memphis Soul Stew".) Others, especially when Ayler sings, are embarassing. An interesting misstep, to say the least.
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TRACK NINETEEN - The tune's kinda Dolphy-esque, but the flautist makes me think of Yusef. Vibes are curious. That's Thad, I'm pretty sure. He had his own thing big time. Mal Waldron on piano, almost has to be. THIS one I gotta get, very much digging it!
My first thought was Yusef for the flute, but after I decided it was Mal on piano, I figured it had to be Dolphy. Still wondering.
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Bread & butter discs are silver/green Taiyo Yudens. I come from the old line of "Japanese only" disc traders.
Unlike Sony, TDK, Imation and the like, I know whose disc they are using. Their own!I used Fuji for the last 2-3 years, until they discontinued the 100 count spool. I then went with Taiyo Yuden for the same reason as Quincy. They make 'em, and they seem to work fine in my car stereo. Some other brands don't.
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1. I recognized Johnny Dodds right away. From the sound quality I assumed that this was one of his Victor sides (earlier recordings for other labels are not as clean). Given the bass theme on this BFT, I’m gonna say “Bull Fiddle Blues”. Johnny Lindsay on bass?
2. This sounds like King Oliver’s band, recording for Vocalion 1926 or 27. Joe Oliver (trumpet), Omer Simeon (clarinet), can’t name the alto or bass.
3. John Kirby Sextet – Charlie Shavers (tp), Buster Bailey (cl), Russell Procope (as), Billy Kyle (p), John Kirby (b), O’Neil Spencer (d). I had this track on an old Harmony LP many years ago, can’t name it.
4. Early Basie on Decca, Prez on tenor. I’m not good with titles.
5. Here’s something of more recent vintage, in stereo. Don’t recognize any of the musicians – one of them sounds like he may be playing a C-melody sax. The trumpet (cornet?) recalls the Bix/Red Nichols “cool” style.
6. As soon as Slam Stewart came in, he was unmistakeable. Pianist Johnny Guarnieri? A mid-40’s Savoy side?
7. Duke Ellington’s “What Am I Here For?”. The bassist has got intonation problems – Ron Carter?
8. The bowed bass threw me off at first, but Duke’s piano is so unmistakeable. Duke Ellington & Jimmy Blanton – “Sophisticated Lady”
9. Basie-like piano, a tenor who has heard Prez, but I don’t think it’s either one of them. Jerry Jerome?
10. Oscar Pettiford, I think. Possibly from the session with Terry Gibbs, Serge Chaloff. “Facin’ the Bass”, maybe?
11. Art Blakey – A Night at Birdland” on Blue Note. Clifford Brown (tp), Lou Donaldson (alto – possibly his finest hour!), Horace, Curley Russell. A classic!
12. Listening to Thelonious is always nice work, if you can get it!
13. A slow blues featuring Miles’ lovely open horn. Percy Heath, Art Blakey. This is one of those things thay made up on the spot – “Blue Haze”? This is an aspect of Miles’ style that is rarely discussed. His St Louis roots and his affinity for fellow hometowners Clark Terry & Shorty Baker are really on display here.
14. Two trumpets – can’t get a handle on either of them. The tune has a dixieland feel, but the trumpeters seem a little more modern. The first guy has a lovely tone, the second guy sounds like he’s playing with a hat. After the piano & bass solos, it sounds like the hat has been removed. Possibly Shorty Baker & Doc Cheatham?
15. An early bop side, taken from a noisy 78. Can this be early Bags? Reminiscent of some of his work with Dizzy. A nice trumpet player, tenor might be James Moody, I’m not sure. A fleet pianist, a nice solo.
16. An innocuous beginning, and then out of nowhere they hit the accelorator. The pianist has got chops, and when he goes into the octaves thing, I was reminded of Phineas Newborn, but this pianist seems to be a showoff without the soul and blues feel that permeates so much of Phineas’ playing. My guess is the Ray Brown Trio with Benny Green.
17. The tune is “Snooty Little Cutie” a hit for Tommy Dorsey with Frank Sinatra in the 40’s. Is that a mellophone? Might this be Don Elliott? Jimmy Raney on guitar?
18. Paul Chambers on bass, I believe. If this is one of his Blue Notes, that would be Clifford Jordan on tenor. I recall that Art Farmer was on the session with Jordan, and I’m not sure I’m hearing Art here, so I’ll give up right now.
19. I’m pretty sure that the pianist is Mal Waldron. Eric Dolphy on flute? The vibist sounds like Bobby Hutcherson, can’t place the trumpet, although I should be able to!
A nice selection of tunes – looking forward to disc 2!!!
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Actually, I would like the non-JR, Bradley Sr. info just to be complete with the issue index, which will show the exact sequence of Sr. and Jr. tracks.
Thanks!
Mike
Side One
Jaywalkin' (Monterose) JB
Judy (Carmichael-Lerner) WB
Spice (Wade Legge) JB
Have You Met Miss Jones? (Rodgers-Hart) WB
Bradley's Beans (Wade Legge) JB
Frenesi (Dominguez) WB
Side Two
Sugar Hips (Wade Legge) JB
My Funny Valentine (Rodgers-Hart) WB
Brainwasher (Phil Sunkel) JB
Little Girl Blue ((Rodgers-Hart) WB
My Old Flame (Coslow-Johnston) JB
Russian Lullaby (Berlin) WB
Details for the WB sides are in Rabin, and presumably elsewhere. Jr is credited as Junior Bradley. Perhaps at some later date he may have come to be known as Bill Bradley.
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Next up - Will & Junior Bradley: House Of Bradley (or is it "The House Of Bradley") - need timings/sequence - and is "Judy" the Hoagy Carmichael tune?
"The House of Bradley", Epic LN-3199.
This is a 12" LP with six tracks by Will Bradley w/ strings rec. 1955, interspersed with six tracks by Junior Bradley (Will Bradley Jr). Here are the details on the Junior sides:
A- February 25, 1955, NYC
B - March 9, 1955, NYC
Phil Sunkel (tp), J. R. Monterose (ts), Wade Legge (p), Doug Watkins (b), Junior Bradley (d)
Jaywalkin' (Monterose) A
Spice (Wade Legge) A
Bradley's Beans (Wade Legge) B
Sugar Hips (Wade Legge) B
Brainwasher (Phil Sunkel) A
My Old Flame (Coslow-Johnston) A
No timings are given on original LP. Perhaps if someone has the Fresh Sounds CD, they can provide them for you.
Judy is indeed the Carmichael tune, but it is performed by Will Bradley Sr. Btw, Junior is the drummer on the WB Sr tracks, but I assume that your focus here is on J. R. Monterose.
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RE: "Was East-West a subsidiary of Atlantic/Atco...?"
On my copy of East-West 4002 'The Jackie Paris Sound' --
Jacket liner: "A Division of Atlantic Recording Corporation"
Vinyl labels: "A Divison of Atlantic Records, New York, N.Y."
Vinyl groove trail, hand etched: "AT" and "11515" or "11516"
Yes, East-West was a wholly owned subsidiary of Atlantic. As Michael has noted, the Lars Gullin & Tommy Potter albums were licensed.
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Me again!
George Wallington - "The Prestidigitator", East-West 4004
Recorded April 4-6, 1957, NYC
Tom Dowd, engineer, studio not identified
Jerry Lloyd (bass trumpet)-1
J. R. Monterose (tenor sax) (out on August Moon)
George Wallington (piano)
Teddy Kotick (bass)
Nick Stabulas (drums)
In Salah (Mose Allison) 4:55
Composin' at the Composer (Wallington) 5:37 -1
Jouons (Monterose) 5:58
Rural Route (Mose Allison) 4:25 -1
Promised Land (Mose Allison) 5:40 -1
August Moon (Jerry Lloyd) 4:48
The Prestidigitator (Monterose) 6:32
I checked Ruppli's Atlantic book, studio not identified.
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I forgot to include the studio info:
Universal Recording Studio, Chicago
no engineer credited
Produced by Cannonball Adderley
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Paul Serrano Quintet - Blues Holiday, Riverside 359
Chicago, November 8, 1960
Paul Serrano (trumpet), Bunky Green (alto sax), Jodie Christian (piano), Don Garrett (bass), Pete La Roca (drums)
Me, Too (Serrano) 6:26
Dream of Igor (Richard Abrams) 8:18
Blues Holiday (Jodie Christian) 4:51
Little Niles (Randy Weston) 4:02
Mr. Lucky (Henry Mancini) 5:52
Everything's Coming Up Roses (Styne-Sondheim) 8:09
I quote from Joe Segal's liner notes:
"Special plaudits are due to Pete La Roca, in town from New York, who filled in so brilliantly on one-day's notice when the quintet's regular drummer was unexpectedly unavailable."
All copied directly from the album. I wonder who Pete La Roca was in town with, and who the quintet's regular drummer may have been?
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I use Skype twice a week to play backgammon with my brother in California. We find the connection to be clear and it never cuts off. And it's free, as long as you've got an internet connection.
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Special for the presence of David "Fathead" Newman, not a Blue Note regular. Musically, the album is consistent with many other Lee Morgan dates. Another session that sat in the can for at least 15 years before finally being released in the early 1980's.
upcoming Jelly Roll Morton set?
in Mosaic and other box sets...
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There have been a number of previous releases (Circle, Riverside, Swaggie, Rounder) but none of them has been complete. This is claimed to contain EVERYTHING.