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  1. I bought this back in 1968 on the strength of rave reviews and his association with the Beach Boys and the Byrds. Held on to it for several years and a number of listenings, but ultimately just never was able to warm up to it. This was clearly an ambitious and unique creation, but I think JSangry has pretty much summed it up. Warner Brothers got behind it in a big way too, but I doubt that they ever went into the black with it.

  2. At an estate sale recently, I picked up several early pressings of LPs. Among them:

    "Anita" (Anita O'Day) Verve/Yellow label

    "Jammin' at Condon's (Eddie Condon and his All-Stars) Columbia/Maroon label/mono

    "Jazz Session" (Harry James and orchestra) Columbia/maroon label)

    After looking them up in Goldmine, I was astounded at how much higher they were valued than the later pressings. Is is due to the scarcity of the first pressings, or was the quality and sound better than on later pressings - or what?

    Collectors like first editions and original pressings, and will pay a premium for them. Sometimes it may have to do with sound quality, but more often than not it is simply the fact that it is a first pressing makes it desireable.

    That said, I would take any "values" listed in Goldmine with a grain of salt.

  3. Thanks again for playing, I enjoyed doing it.

    I enjoyed participating! A few comments:

    5. My face is red! I was so sure this was Jimmy Heath!

    13. Seems like a lot of people (myself included) thought this was Benny Goodman! Wilbur can really sound like him! I guess the kinda dramatic ending that Wilbur delivers is un-BG like, so I should've known better.

    14. Are the two versions on the CD's the same? The one you played was originally on Musicraft. They also cut a version for Standard Transcriptions. I've got the Standards on a 2 Jazz Archive LP's, but they have been released on numerous budget LP's (and probably CD's) over the years.

  4. What did become of Johnny Bothwell. also sax with Boyd Raeburn's band who sounded a bit like Hodges?

    For that matter, what became of Boyd Raeburn, who had one of the first boppish bands in the forties?

    I couldn't sleep last night and these are the things I worried about. :blink:

    Johnny Bothwell left music in 1949. He died in 1995.

    Boyd Raeburn made three very commercial LP's for Columbia in the 1950's. He died in 1966.

  5. Now the last question.  I've heard his name pronounced like it sounds, but also like Phinas.  Anyone know which is correct?

    Up over and out.

    fin..........e..........as

    Actually both pronunciations are correct. His given name is Phinus Newborn, Jr. I have a 78 by his father's band that spells the name this way. When Jr was in high school, he got tired of the girls teasing him with "fine ass" so he changed it to Phineas. I heard this from his brother Calvin. Fellow Memphis musician James Williams told me in the early 80's that local musicians still called him "Phinus".

  6. I agree with Mike about "Hold On I'm Comin" - a dog! It was Blakey's one concession to commercialism.

    "Golden Boy" and "Soul Finger" are fine albums, even though they may appear to be commercial copouts.

    Some of my favorites (without going to look at the shelves):

    "The Jazz Messengers" (Columbia)

    "Moanin'" (Blue Note)

    "At the Jazz Corner" (Blue Note)

    "Impulse" (Impulse)

    "Mosaic" (Blue Note)

    "Buhaina's Delight" (Blue Note)

    "Ugetsu" (Riverside)

    "Free For All" (Blue Note)

    "Indestructible" (Blue Note)

    There are plenty more really good ones, but these are the standouts for me.

  7. Does someone on this board knows if the title Blue Fantasy exists or not.

    This title is a part of the Frank Socolow session for the Duke label, recorded in New York City on May 2, 1945, with Freddie Webster (tp), Frank Socolow (ts), Bud Powell (p), Leonard Gaskin (b), Irv Kluger (dm).

    Only 3 titles are issued on Xanadu, Classics, Fresh Sound Records & Proper:

    The man I love (issued on Duke 112 (78rpm)

    Reverse the charges (issued on Duke 112 (78rpm)

    September in the rain (issued on Duke 115 (78rpm)

    Duke 115 contains only September in the rain, the other side is blank!

    A source indicates that maybe Blue Fantasy exists as test pressing, but this tune can’t be traced and may be assumed lost.

    Any new information will be welcomed.

    Thanks!

    Claude

    The fourth title has yet to be found. The information listed in discographies comes from advertisements taken out at the time of issue, although no one knows if Duke 115 was ever actually issued. The dub that is heard on Xanadu and elsewhere is from a glass-based test pressing found by Bob Porter in the Savoy vaults. Apparently Savoy had pressed the Duke recordings, or had used the same pressing plant as Duke. Porter told me that he believes that 115 was probably never released, and that the test pressing of "Blue Fantasy" was most likely among the hundreds of broken ones he encountered in his search.

  8. And would like Atlantic to issue the unreleased second album by Hasaan. This was recorded in August and September 1965 in New York with Odeon Pope, Art Davis and drummer Khalil Madi.

    Has anybody here ever heard this?? (Or ever heard from someone who's heard this??)

    All Hasaan originals -- or any standards??

    (Paging Chuck.)

    I suspect that this may be one of the sessions that was lost in the Atlantic warehouse fire. :o

  9. Forgot about the Tatum and Webster. Why did MGM let Granz keep the Tatum tapes when Verve was sold?  It's odd that the Tatum material was carved out of the rest of the catalog.

    Granz did not keep the Tatum tapes. In the 1970's he bought them back, saying that he regretted having sold them.

  10. Any Ebay email can be spoofed, but it's hard to understand what the purpose of this one is.

    I got snookered by this trick a couple of months back. Received a message about something I had supposedly sold, went to respond to tell the sender that he was barking up the wrong tree, and was asked for my username and password. I gave them and immediately realized I'd been scammed, and changed my password right away. I've learned to ignore the old "your account will be suspended" scams that I get regularly from "Ebay" and "Paypal" , but this was a new wrinkle. I guess these scams must work enough of the time that the crooks keep doing them. I've heard that when they get a real username and password, they list "Buy It Now" merchandise under the username they stole, take the money, and the real seller takes the blame. :angry:

  11. None that I've found thus far.  Any jazz musicians born on March 18th??

    All these were born on March 18:

    Joe Burke

    Langston Curl

    Sam Donahue

    Bill Frisell

    Fred Gerard

    Jean Goldkette

    Pat Halcox

    Al Hall

    Deane Kincaide

    Joe Locke

    Andy Narell

    George Olsen

    George Orendorff

    Courtney Pine

    Ross Russell

    Bob Smith

    Jon Weber

    No major names share my birthday (July 6), but a guy who's big in another arena does: George Dubya! :angry::(

  12. After reading everyone else's responses, I've got a couple more comments. Agree with JSangry about the distracting digital harshness on track 13, and also found myself impatiently waiting for Hawk to come in on #11, can't believe I didn't recognize Vonski or Fathead! :angry:

  13. OK, I'm ready to toss my hat into the ring.

    1. Warne Marsh – This is from the “Jazz of Two Cities” album on Imperial, possibly the title track? Based on “Lover Come Back To Me”, beautiful music! Warne and Ted Brown blend together so nicely, I can’t always tell them apart, but I’m pretty sure Warne is up first. Ronnie Ball is the pianist, Ben Tucker on bass, can’t remember the drummer.

    2. “Indian Summer” – when I first heard this a few days ago, we New Englanders were enjoying one! I believe this is Bill Perkins and Richie Kamuca, from the great “Tenors Head-On” on Liberty. I think Richie is up first, followed by the oh-so-Pres-like Bill Perkins. A lovely side.

    3. Now I'm beginning to see the light! “Cootie & Rex – The Big Challenge” a great album on Jazztone! Let’s see if we can name the soloists – after the ensemble it’s Rex Stewart, Cootie Williams (trumpets), Coleman Hawkins, Bud Freeman (tenors), Dicky Wells, J. C. Higginbotham (bones), Rex & Cootie again. This music is like mother’s milk to me!

    4. This one didn’t ring any familiar bells for me, possibly Herbie Mann on flute? Nice solos from piano & guitar, but nobody’s jumping up and saying “Hey, it’s me!” Trombone sounds like a valve job.

    5. From the sound I believe this is a Riverside session, and I’m pretty sure I can hear the arranging touch of Jimmy Heath. Freddie Hubbard would be my guess for trumpet, can’t place the wild alto, tenor seems to be Jimmy Heath, as I suspected. Can’t place anybody in the rhythm section, drummer is strong.

    6. A tantalizingly familiar tenor, can’t name him or anyone else, for that matter. Trombone is scuffling a bit – Julian Priester?

    7. “Solitude” – the pianist throws in a few Dukish flourishes. Might this be an older player like maybe Ralph Sutton or Dill Jones?

    8. My first reaction was Stan Getz – “East of the Sun”. Well, I got the tune right, but this seems to be an alto, and the ideas aren’t flowing as they would if it was Stan, so I’m lost. A somewhat disjointed performance, although rhythm section is nicely in the pocket.

    9. On second listen it occurred to me that this might be from Pete LaRoca’s “Turkish Women At the Bath” with John Gilmore on tenor and Chick Corea on piano. Am I warm?

    10. A nice airy tenor and a challenging tempo. In places I’m reminded of Sam Rivers, but I’m not at all familiar with this side.

    11. “Limbo Jazz” – the Duke of Ellingtonia plays host to the Hawk of Colemanville. Love the way Harry Carney’s bari provides such a beautiful underpinning to the ensemble. After everybody has had their say, Hawk glides in so effortlessly, building as he goes, and slithering out again. Is that Sam Woodyard vocalizing?

    12. A nice medium tempo blues, possibly Ray Bryant on piano? Sweets Edison makes his presence known, and then it’s Jaws’ turn. Ray Brown on bass? This has to be a Pablo session. I swear there are more than two horns in the ensemble!

    13. Benny Goodman, I’m pretty sure, playing to a large appreciative audience! I’m guessing this was recorded in the 60’s or possibly 70’s – the old man still has great chops and a sweet tone, more than you know.

    14. “HHTM” Teddy Wilson, one of the sextet sides from 1944, I believe. Remo Palmieri (guitar), Charlie Shavers? (trumpet), Red Norvo (vibes), Al Hall? (bass), Specs Powell? (drums). Remo (or whoever it is) sounds so nice on this.

    15. Here’s a guy who comes in and signs his name right away – Erroll Garner, “Penthouse Serenade”. So sweet!!!

    16. This must be one of those all trumpet deals, probably on Pablo. I’m pretty sure the first soloist is Clark Terry, Dizzy is next, Freddie Hubbard(?) third, takes more choruses than the first two, which threw me off the first time I listened. I swear there are at least five trumpets in the fours section, but by this time I’m totally lost! :huh:

    Some really excellent choices, Chris – thoroughly enjoyed this BFT! :g

    Now to go back and see what others are saying…

  14. A recording I like very much is TEDDY EDWARDS-HOWARD MCGHEE - TOGETHER AGAIN - CONTEMPORARY. This one has a fine rhythm section of Phineas Newborn,Jr, Ray Brown, and Ed Thigpen.

    His other Contemporary album "Maggie's Back In Town" is a long time favorite of mine. His playing in this period (early 1960's) displays fewer pyrotechnics, but is very solid.

  15. I do have a record, a free addition  to Jazz Magazine that gives as track 10

    I Love My Man - Billie Holiday with Louis Armstrong (Esquirre(sic)

    Metropolitan Opera Jam Session) ( 18/01/1944)

    (Billie Holiday with Louis Armstrong) Metropolitan Opera House.

    BTW: The record contains Original V-disc recordings1943-1944

    This is from the Esquire concert at the Met. The date is January 18, 1944, originally issued on V-Disc 248.

    Info from Richard Sears' V-Disc Discography.

  16. Of course, I'm coming to all of this stuff after it happened and was already on the books. You guys saw/heard it as it happened, and I suppose that if I had been used to Monk w/Blakey & Max & Roy & etc, that the sudden appearance of both Dunlop and Rouse might have been cause for puzzlement. But I didn't come to it like that.

    I saw it as it happened, and I still love Dunlop, so that ain't it, necessarily. However, I didn't get to see Monk until Riley was on board, but not yet on record. Hated him, and it wan't until probably 20 years later that I had any use for him.

    I agree with Chuck about the "restored" live Monk albums - less IS more! And I did keep the LP's.

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