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I don't believe it has to be MP3. It's only (hah! only!) 800 recordings, at less than 4 minutes each. That's about 40 CD's. In WAV, that'll be about 32 GB of data--right now, without looking for deals, you can buy yourself a 32 GB USB flash drive for $20. (To do the quick'n'dirty calculation yourself, you can of course rip a track to WAV and see how big it is, or you can use the value for 16 bit PCM audio in the table here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAV (about 1MB/minute), or you can fudge a little and realise that Red Book audio (16 bit PCM, conveniently enough) fits just short of 80 minutes on a CD, and a standard CD-R holds around 700 MB of data (yes, you are fudging the formatting, but that's O.K.--just ballparking it).) Aside: I hope it's not WAV, though, because there's no metadata format for WAV files (and if you're going to charge me $400 for a box, you'd better include correct metadata on your digital files--I don't want to have to deal with the garbage I get from CDDB or Gracenote). FLAC or ALAC would be better lossless choices (and even smaller). And I agree with rgodridge and Allen: I really wish I could just buy the flash drive and not get the rest of this stuff. I don't want a wooden case, or LP's, or even the book. It's hard enough to store my music already. Man, this post has a lot of parentheses!

Email sent on Basie Jam 2 and Bob Wilber.

Did you guys actually *read* the brief? The line you are up in arms about is a direct quotation from a supreme court opinion in Smith v. Maryland. You may not like it (I don't!), but it's nothing specific to Google, to email, or to the internet. See here for a more nuanced view: http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/14/4621474/yes-gmail-users-have-an-expectation-of-privacy The bottom line, as in all these cases, is that if you don't want non-recipients reading your mail you must use PGP.

I have a copy of Evan Holloway's "Music of Chopin Performed on the Reversed Piano". The cover does indeed show a reversed Steinway & Sons grand piano. I can't find an image of the album online, I'm afraid. Amazon doesn't have an entry. Here it is on groovesgark, though: http://grooveshark.com/#!/album/Music+Of+Chopin+Performed+On+The+Reversed+Piano/4395814

Two things come to mind immediately: 1) Buddy Bolden 2) Count Basie battling Chick Webb at the Savoy Ballroom in Harlem (same night as the Goodman concert at Carnegie Hall, incidentally) Oh, I lied: 3) Sidney Bechet playing with Ellington.

I was going to skip this BFT, because, let's face it, if it was recorded after electricity was invented, I usually don't like it. But I saw Nina's name in this thread, and I like *her*. So I braved it. (And I cheated and have read the comments so far.) I don't have anything intelligent to say about most of this. Lame attempts at humour below. Track 1: "African Mailman" from Nina's first recording session, in 1957. The stand-outs from that session, for me, dance-obsessed fool that I am, are "Love Me or Leave Me" and "My Baby Just Cares for Me". Track 2: music for an Austin Powers movie. Track 5 is bugging me something fierce. C'mon. Surely I know this! Late 20's. Ugh. I can't identify anyone! Whoever takes that clarinet solo at 0:45 is doubling, I suspect--but that doesn't help me much. Maybe the same guy who takes the warbling alto (?) solo around 2:00? If so, that must be the leader, but I hear more than one reed, so who knows. Some territory band? Jeffcrom is going to come by and name this tune in three notes, and I'll feel dumb. Track 9: music for a "Strange Encounters of the Third Kind" sequel. Oh. It changed. I don't know what it is now. Doesn't fit my hypothetical movie very well anymore. Too bad. Track 13: music for a documentary about cats walking across piano keyboards. Maybe this changes, too, but I didn't stick around to find out. Track 20: music for a bizarre, drug-induced, avant-garde Pink Panther cartoon. Track 22: I don't know where to start. I just want you to know that to unenlightened souls like myself, this sounds eerily like a bus or train is telling me to get out of the way. Five is gonna bug me.

JSngry's link has the line-up, but in case that page disappears, I'll stick it here for archival purposes: Alvin Alcorn (tp), Jack Delaney (tb), Harry Shields (cl), Armand Hug (p), Danny Barker (g (or bj?)), Chester Zardis (b), Louis Barbarin (d) And I badly want to hear about your hearing Chester in person! There's that great footage of his talking on a street corner to some kids, playing his bass. I think it's in some Rhapsody Films documentary, but I don't remember which one.

Oh. Ah. O.K. No way I would have guessed this. I have simply heard too little of the clarinettist's playing--except for some tracks from 1925, I have nothing of his. (But will now seek out more!) Shall I try to keep it secretive? AA, HS, CZ, 1967--yes? And the rest are heavy-weights, too. What a line-up!

Excellent--thanks!

On the first box there's a sticker that puzzles me. What does "DO NOT BAKE" mean? Is "bake" jargon for something one might be able to do with metal masters but not with acetates? (You know, something other than "make more delicious by sticking into an oven at high temperature".)

Ah, sorry. A visceral reaction there that could have been tempered somewhat. Have been listening to Johnny Dodds all morning because of this BFT. (Not that I need a tremendous amount of excuse to listen to Dodds.) And I added a CD with 13 to my wishlist.

Subjective rants ahead (but of course). I haven't read the rest of the thread (again, of course). 1: Modern garbage with a trumpet player, who, in the "style" of Miles Davis, fails to play anything resembling a pleasing melody. Jerk. 2: Piano solo taken from a 78. (Why a 78? Because it sounds like the record is slightly off-balance or warped, and I can hear the "scratchy" bit go by a little more than once a second.) No idea who it is, but it's pretty. I wouldn't be surprised if you told me it's Hoagy Carmichael, but that's because of the feel of the piece, not because of the playing. Anyway. No real idea, but I like it O.K. 3: Well. This is right up my alley, up and over the wall at the very end of it, up the fire escape beyond it, straight in my bedroom window, and snuggled deep within my covers. I assume it's been ID'ed by now, but: "Perdido Street Blues", the New Orleans Wanderers, 1926. Dodds (that note at 0:47 always gives me chills), Mitchell on cornet, Ory, Lil Hardin Armstrong, and Johnny St Cyr. I always think of Bechet when I hear this, for two reasons. One is that, to my ears, Dodds sounds a fair bit like Bechet here. The second is of course the 1940 Armstrong-Bechet recording of the same tune. If pressed, I have to admit I like that one better, even though it's perhaps cleaner and less hot. One issue I've always had with the 1926 recording is the ending: I wish it weren't so abrupt. It always sounded to me like the band was caught a little off-guard about the end of the wax. 4: "Tin Roof Blues", of course. A modern band, I suspect. Curious to find out who the clarinettist is; the (wo)man can play. I wish the pianist would try to do a little less in his solo spot near the end. How old is this? I wouldn't be surprised if these guys were still playing together. 5: Oh sweet lord... Music for a History channel documentary on ancient Egypt or the Maya. 6: These guys need Ritalin. 7: At first I (in a drunken stupour?!?--I wish I had some excuse!) thought of Bob Crosby. But this is Claude Thornhill's band. I wouldn't have known that without having heard the track before. It's a cute song. I like it. 8: Things that go on for 8:34 are annoying. They remind me that the Blanton-Webster band never was able to stretch out like that on record. That the Armstrong Hot-X never were. That Jelly Roll Morton never was. I have nothing intelligent to say about this track, obviously. 9: Well, it's "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes" by a pianist and tenor. That's all I know. It's O.K. Not *really* my thing, but worth a few listens, surely. 10: Someone playing an actual organ--like, with pipes and things--none of these funny electrical gadgets that you can fit in your garage. No, an organ for Real Men. But, it being an organ for Real Men, it's super far away, lest it blow the recording equipment out into the Panama Canal. Again, I have nothing intelligent to say about this track. My feelings about it are close to those I had at #9. 11: People who indiscriminately hit drum sets like that ought to be (rim) shot. There's also some dude having a wrestling match with, what appears to be, a saxophone of some sort. Or a rare Amazonian snake. What do I know. Next. 12: Yeaaaaaaaah! Danny in the late 40's. This is on that funny GHB release "Jazz à la Creole", which has a bunch of Baby Dodds tracks mixed with this stuff. Good stuff. 13: "Dream a Little Dream of Me". This had me running to a discography, because I know the 1950 duet with Ella and the Sy Oliver orchestra, but I did not know this one. So, uh, I cheated. I didn't even try to identify the members of the All-Stars at this point--there was actual running towards the bookcase ten seconds into the track. 14: Ha. I assume this has been ID'ed (and I'm surprised it has taken so long to show up in a BFT). It's Jo and Paul having their little bit of fun. I also assume that, if it has indeed been ID'ed, someone has pointed out how wicked hard it is to do what Jo is doing here (well, unless it comes naturally, of course--but it didn't to her!). Love the things you'd think I'd love, hated the things you'd think I'd hate, and found some middle ground there to listen to again and give another chance. ;o) Thanks, Jeff! Edit: Read the thread, and woah--did I see that right? Danny Barker ID'ed, but not the Dodds? I wouldn't have predicted that.

DL, please!

I find myself with quite a bit of credit with Jazzology. I'll pick up some AM CD's I don't have yet and have wanted for a while, but here's something else that has me curious: BCD-236: Leonard Bechet Quartet - Yellow Days One of the reviews on amazon is positive, the other very negative--both are pretty useless. Anyone here have it and care to weigh in? Jeff? Is this Sidney-doing-dentistry-bad or is it interestingly awesome?

The Hawkins has been on my Mosaic wishlist for a while now. Any particular reason you are selling it? Didn't like the material or the sound?

Only nine tracks overlap, all master takes from 1937 and 1938. Get both! If you let me know which ones, I'd be happy to tell you if those alternates differ a lot (and whether that master is especially good). Indeed. You could also get the one-disc "Young Sidney Bechet" on Timeless if that's all you're after, though. FWIW, I would describe the sound on that as a little more "open". Both sound great.

Month got away from me again, but I enjoyed listening to this. I have no guesses, since it's all outside of my usual listening, but am eager to read some of the thread. Thanks for the BFT, JSngry!

Thanks for the heads-up! The Ladnier books is indeed excellent.

As I said, they sound different. You yourself implied that they sound different in your first message in this thread (or were you just saying the Frogs were the ones to get over the JSPs without having heard the JSPs?). Is it possible they took the Frog discs and adjusted the sound? Yes. Do you have any evidence? No. It's fine that you dislike and distrust JSP, but slinging around accusations is not helping anyone. Yes, I am aware of some of their shady doings in the past. Then again, I'm also aware of some of their non-shady ones. Yes, those were the ones--sorry, volume 5! Wonderful interviews.

I have both the JSP and some of the Frogs. My relatively young ears are perfectly happy with the JSP. The Frogs are slightly different, but since I can't, on repeated listening, decide whether they're better or worse, I've decided it's clearly not worth getting the ones I don't have yet. Let's not talk about the Columbia CDs. (Though do get volume 4 if you want to hear the interviews.)

DL for me, please.

If you can tell they're completely different, then you're actually coming out ahead. You can read both, so you get more information.

PM sent on Miff Mole volume 2 and Jimmy O'Bryant. Also here to say that "That's My Stuff" is one of my favourite Frog releases.

Probably about the same as the 3-CD set from Definitive that covers 1946-51 (master takes only). Yes, and what was the sound like on that one?

Thanks! That looks pretty interesting. The trouble is that Harlequin has an awful habit of de-noising the music to death. I don't know if that's the case for this disc, but I fear the worst. (If anyone here happens to have the CD and can comment on sound quality, that would be great!) In the mean time, I have tried contacting these folks: http://www.youtube.com/overjazzrecords They've posted some excellent early recordings. E.g.: