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oh, jazz kat - I think some of wish for those days...

er..I'm sure it does...

aaaaah, to be young and naive...

Don't worry I won't...

No Allen. I think you're thinking of the time he called Jimmy Lyons a Zionist (or was it that all Zionist were lions...hmmm...) oh, shucks...I think I'll go have a lie in...

Thanks David. I know what you mean about late Trane and that's not really the kind of c.c. that I'm talking about. It's the kind that I'm sure that you've heard that often involves endless noodling - you know, very little substance which is far from late Trane. Thanks Louis and welcome to the Board! I'll check out the titles that you mentioned at the website.

Probably because it's Philip Catherine's band, but are these pre "Pork Pie" recordings? It appears that it's post-Ponty, so somewhere inbetween?

A very poignant observation no matter what side you're on. I agree with this. Ok, Berigan. I see where you're coming from now. (though I don't really totally agree with all of the statements made). Will you at least try to? Oh, yes! Of course! I'm nearly always trying to get at subjects from the "where did that idea come from?" angle. Unfortunately, I'm constantly inundated with statements that are - what we say here in Texas - "flat out" statements...statements based on ideas that are categories of thought rather than opinions/ideas that are reasonably thought out. ...Or, if you wish, comments that are meant to have some weight, but end up being a kind of "wink-wink, nudge-nudge" platitude that becomes pretty all-encompassing without really saying anything of substance at all. When I say that I don't agree totally with your statements, I'm referring to the line that equates most of Che's views with most of our's here and it simply isn't true. It's the all too typical activity of letting loose a convenient platitude if an idea is to the left of Genghis Khan. I couldn't really get a hold on Che's views about anything (especially the anti-Semitic ones that I never read), because most of them appeared to be highly ill-defined (which I don't believe that the majority of this board fits under - no matter what our political, musical, etc views are). What I mean is that I could never figure out where his light was shining from really: was he out to just get a rise...this weird seesaw of a ride between being "happy-happy joy-joy" one moment to getting weirdly defensive the next. This "can't wait to bait" attitude mixed with a strange bi-polar weirdness that made you wonder whether he really believed what he was saying. So what you do is just listen and observe until you become his target and try to, hopefully, deal with it as diplomatically as possible.

I'd like to say that I didn't inhale... ...but I'd be lying...

Well, I think what you see as "self righteously patronising" is what many of us probably see as commentary on bizarre behaviour. Also, I think there's a natural human desire to contrast and compare - not for self-aggrandisement, but rather, to try and understand what people are trying to achieve with such behaviour. The idea that guys like Aric and Che may not have learned from their continual banning from forums or their being shunned by their fellow human beings - that maybe their ideas need to be re-evaluated or presented in a less aggresive manner - is something that, I think, many of us here find a bit puzzling. After all, the guy just moves over to another forum and changes not one whit!

Sounds like Wynton.

A very poignant observation no matter what side you're on. I agree with this. Ok, Berigan. I see where you're coming from now. (though I don't really totally agree with all of the statements made).

Aaaaah, OK. I was thinking that maybe he played with Pharoah live 'cause I didn't remember seeing his name on any of the LPs, but, OK, so Pharoah joins him on a few tunes... I've been a little wary of the...um...for lack of a better phrase..."cosmic consciousness" aspect - or what seems like c.c. I'll look for some mp3s to hear something more than the first LP. thanks David!

Thanks Nate! I'll take a look. I'd still like to hear some comments from listeners and/or musicians.

Ok, I'm up for that! I heard that in Tower and really liked what I heard, but not willing to pay $19 for it! I'll pick it up online and then we can continue... B-)

OK, let me see. In this thread we have Berigan and skeith fantasizing about liberalism as the force overiding this ouster. This, while nobody else that I notice is trying to draw political lines of opposition. See, even tho I try not to do the arbitrary divisional thing, it quickly becomes another one of those irksome things about the delusionals that insert themselves into discussions - always a "liberal" thing that brings about some kind of irrelation to the subject at hand. I just don't understand why activities and events of all kinds cannot be looked at and judged in relation to the various ideas at hand - those that are outside of one's already established purview. It's almost as if there's a "stir-the-shit" fakebook that needs to be adhered to at all times. Just amazing...and, ultimately, very sad...

While listening to the Free America re-release of Emergency - Homage to Peace, it began reminding me a bit of an LP from Tisziji Muñoz called "Rendezvous with Now." It's been so long since I've listened to that record. Does anyone know more about this guy? I know that he played with Pharoah some and, I think, Dave Liebman, but can anyone recommend any of his other recordings? Thanks!

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Sure, but I just noticed that a bunch of quotes were removed from the "From Performances" section I know that the Wikipedia is editable by the general public, but whaaaaaa?

As well as the role... Unless it was a nice russian rye

"candygram for che" OH! I thought you meant this.

love that!

Hey, guys (and, of course, gals)! I found a huge number of quotes here!

"I got an ant farm. Them fellas didn't grow shit." "I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long." "Last week I helped my friend stay put. It's a lot easier than helping someone move. I just went over to his house and made sure that he did not start to load shit into the back of a truck." "I wanted to light some candles, but I didn't have a candle holder. So I got a cake."

I'm supposed to be editing audio now, so maybe another time. (JSngry wipes his brow..."whew!"...)