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OK, first, here's Mike Clark talking about "Actual Proof": "Actual Proof" was to originally be called "The Spook Who Sat By the Door," from the movie soundtrack. I'm proud of the role I played in helping this classic come to fruition. The producer had asked me to play a rhythm I would have turned my nose up at in eighth grade. I responded that I wanted us to share the interactions and conversations that were going on inside the groove, in the tradition of Elvin and Trane, or Miles and Tony. At this, the producer became enraged and replied that we had one take, one chance, to do it our way, and if we failed, we had to do it his way. Actual Proof is a Buddhist term which signifies, through the act of chanting Nam Myoho Renge Kyo, that one can transform one's inner life and the environment will respond in kind. I excused myself and sneaked into an empty studio and chanted twenty minutes. It was my determination that we make the first take undeniable, "actual proof," for all the world to hear. I went back in and we did it. One take. It felt exactly as it sounds. And that's why Herbie changed the name to "Actual Proof." Following are excerpts that feature mostly music. There's lots of dialogue in the other tracks. I didn't take any of the pops and clicks out - this is just straight off of the LP, so excuse the quality - it's from 32 years ago, so... Again, probably the only real reason to buy this recording now is if you're just a Hancock completist cause "Actual Proof" is available on "Thrust." At the time that I heard this tho, it was from that flexidisc and the movie was still a year away and "Thrust" was still two years away from release. (Plus, I've always liked these "blaxploitation" flix - cheap sentiment, I guess ) Spook (short version) [2:51/2.6MB] Underground [2:03/1.9MB] The Big Rip Off [4:27/4.1MB] Recruiting [0:50/788Kb] The Pick Up [2:04/1.9MB] Main Theme [1:24/1.3MB] Spook (long version) [4:13/6.4MB]

OK, well guys, give me a few minutes and I'll transfer some cuts from the LP, so you can hear the music instead of dialogue. I haven't transfered this LP to CDR yet, so that's why I didn't provide anything earlier, but I'm creating some tracks from LP to my Mac now and'll give you a heads up inside the hour.

It's a CORONET!!!! RIGHT!

Me, too! I'm just not sure what else I'd ask. If I was a big fan and/or cornet player, I'm sure I could pull a trick question outta my hat!

yeah, you really can't go by spelling. I mean, "Hogie Carmichal" -

I've heard some good things about "Love from...", but I don't remember what it sounds like now. I still have that flexi around here somewhere. I made a cover for it soon afterwards, so it should still be in pretty good shape. It's possible that the master tapes are out there and a CD could show up someday at Dusty Groove, but it's a pretty short LP. About 30 minutes or less, so maybe it could be paired with some other funky blaxploitation serve-up. You're right about the funky beginning, but you pretty much get that with "Actual Proof." front: back:

So, anybody, how are the Norman Connors dates?? Looks like only the first one ("Dance of Magic") has ever been released on CD, in 1995 (at least according to the AMG). Edit: The line-up on the first one certainly looks good... Sorry I missed this thread last night... "Dance of Magic" is another one of those LPs that goes in that thread about recordings that got a real workout. It, and "Dark of Light," were released on CD both as single CDs and as a 2 on 1 CD. Side Two of "Dance..." is a favorite (except for the throwaway, "Give the Drummer Some"). "Blue" is a beautifully constructed and played piece written by Stanley Clarke that's kind of a gentle, beautiful maze of instruments that's held together by Arthur Webb's flute - a "cloud of butterflies" feel without the new age connect. Cecil McBee is strong on that track as well. Cecil wrote "Morning Change" for the album which is another strong tune where everyone really works well together. It has a real tight, but not "manufactured" sound. The title cut is a bit reminiscent of "Wisdom through Music" era Pharoah Sanders and gives everyone a real workout with fine solos by Carlos Garnett, Eddie Henderson, Gary Bartz and Herbie. "Dark of Light" is not quite as good as the first album, but I'd considered it a three and half star compared to a four and a half star for the 1st LP and would recommend it if you can buy it as a "two-fer." The title track is a bit like if you mixed a bit of Mwandishi with the Black Jazz label - Dee Dee Bridgewater providing the "Jean Carn"-like vocals. A pleasant version of the popular (for that time) Clarke tune "Butterfly Dreams." "Black Lightnin'" tries to do too much and ultimately doesn't really go anywhere - a kind of free improv version of the "Dance of Magic" cut. Plus there's another throwaway cut of about 90 seconds called "Twilight Zone" - which is where it should've stayed. Anyone wanting to hear these, just PM me and I'll play it for you. The original cover - never saw that other one: Also: ...speaking of Herbie and "The Spook..." LP [which I was listening to again just last night(!) - I think to Chuck's consternation] ... Keyboard magazine, in the 70's, released a flexidisc with Herbie talking about the wonders of the Fender Rhodes piano, and on it he speaks about the soundtrack that he was working on at the time for this new movie - which, of course, was "The Spook..." An excerpt of the title tune plays and it's a real funkified groove... later, the song is released and it's the song we now know as "Actual Proof" from "Thrust"!

Of course, "ain't nothing like the real thing", but anyone hear these youngsters known as The Mighty Imperials? They clearly have been listening to those Meters records. Nice to see young guys getting into this kind of thing instead of what passes for teenage/20s music nowadays: Soulbuster (w/Joseph Henry) Kick the Blanket

Maaaaaaaaaaan! I forgot! Macaroni and cheese!!! (how could I forget? )

Great Bill! Glad to hear there's some progress. It works that way, you know? - a little bit better - little by little - then something happens that seems to give you a big boost - emotionally or financially or both! I don't know how much of our lives could parallel yours, but many of us are (or were) in the music business and that's definitely difficult! things turn around tho...

Sudan (sorry...)

You've got a great buncha folks here giving you great advice that I can't really add much to because they've covered so much area. It seems hopeless right now, but I can relate to the ramen noodles, beans, and rice diet. The hardest time for me was at the age of 26 and it really put me in severe depression, but things really do turn around! Remember, when that tax check does come in, hide some of it somewhere - anywhere that's not a temptation. best to you (and keep us all up to date)

yup - ima gonna go>>>>>>>> maybe, if this becomes a regular gig, then we can all look forward to the new QO CD: "The Quartet live at the FallOut"

Very difficult question For now, I'd say: but I'd have to give it some thought. I remember playing thru many copies of this too:

I enjoy the Rilling recordings on Hänssler. They are not HIP if that's a criteria that you follow. Reasonably priced (outside the boxset) and quite warm sounding with accurate tempo.

I understand that Astralwerks has screwed up yet again? That tracks 18 and 20 (or is it 17 and 19?) are the same piece? "Climate Study is actually the piece "Approaching Taidu"? Just curious to know before I buy this first pressing... Thanks!

- Shahi Rajma - Basmati Rice - Gulab Jamun - Vanilla Chai Tea

well, put me down for a pre-order! I'd like to pre-order a pile o' money too. Can you tell me when I can expect delivery? Thank you

Red, I agree with you completely! It was such an incredible revelation to me as a child. It was an amazing sound world coming from a single sax. Twists and turns and "sheets of sound" (to use a Trane analogy). That was my introduction to his work and I wanted to know more about this guy, so, next weekend, the guys at, I think, Hegewisch Records outside Chicago introduced me to "Three Compositions of New Jazz" and off I went. I think that record, tho, was greatly responsible for my father selling my alto. I came home from school one day and it was gone. He used the lame excuse that I wasn't practicing enough. Maybe my teacher complained... Big regret for not continuing tho...

Thanks Mike for this - lots of stuff to chew on. Not sure if this fits, but the other day while at the grocers, I had bought a medium number of items. When I asked the bagger if I could have it double-bagged (due to a couple of medium-heavy half-gallon items), she got all huffy and then told me that they were low on bags. I said "OK." She finished by putting everything in two half filled bags. I asked her what the difference was and she couldn't answer. So, I made her take all of them out of the bags and double-bag it like I asked for in the first place. She was not a happy camper.

Cannonball guested on a Raul De Souza OJC date. Also, James Fulkerson hasn't been mentioned...oh, a bunch more good'uns

Found this online...many of you may know some of these already. Do you have a special creative way of dealing with such things? ****************************************************************************** Three Little Words That Work !! (1)The three little words are: "Hold On, Please..." Saying this, while putting down your phone and walking off (instead of hanging-up immediately) would make each telemarketing call so much more time-consuming that boiler room sales would grind to a halt. Then when you eventually hear the phone company's "beep-beep-beep" tone, you know it's time to go back and hang up your handset, which has efficiently completed its task. These three little words will help eliminate telephone soliciting. (2) Do you ever get those annoying phone calls with no one on the other end? This is a telemarketing technique where a machine makes phone calls and records the time of day when a person answers the phone. This technique is used to determine the best time of day for a "real" sales person to call back and get someone at home. What you can do after answering, if you notice there is no one there, is to immediately start hitting your # button on the phone, 6 or 7 times, as quickly as possible. This confuses the machine that dialed the call and it kicks your number out of their system. Gosh, what a shame not to have your name in their system any longer !!! (3) Junk Mail Help: When you get "ads" enclosed with your phone or utility bill, return these "ads" with your payment. Let the sending companies throw their own junk mail away. When you get those "pre-approved" letters in the mail for everything from credit cards to 2nd mortgages and similar type junk, do not throw away the return envelope Most of these come with postage-paid return envelopes, right? It costs them more than the regular 37 cents postage "IF" and when they receive them back. It costs them nothing if you throw them away! The postage was around 50 cents before! the last increase and it is according to the weight. In that case, why not get rid of some of your other junk mail and put it in these cool little, postage-paid return envelopes. One of Andy Rooney's (60 minutes) ideas. Send an ad for your local chimney cleaner to American Express. Send a pizza coupon to Citibank. If you didn't get anything else that day, then just send them their blank application back! If you want to remain anonymous, just make sure your name isn't on anything you send them. You can even send the envelope back empty if you want to just to keep them guessing! It still costs them 37 cents. The banks and credit card companies are currently getting a lot of their own junk back in the mail, but folks, we need to OVERWHELM them. Let's let them know what it's like to get lots of junk mail, and best of all they're paying for it...Twice! Let's help keep our postal service busy since they are saying that e-mail is cutting into their business profits, and that's why they need to increase postage costs again. You get the idea! If enough people follow these tips, it will work---- I have been doing this for years, and I get very little junk mail anymore.

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