Chuck Nessa

I go to bed in the 11-11:30 range and get up about 6:45. I wonder how much the TV schedule/time zone situation dictates our habits. When we lived in the Central zone and news was at 10 we went to bed earlier than we do now in the Eastern zone with news at 11.

I don't think so. If I choose ignore the writings of John McDonough it may diminish your view of me (if you are aware of it), but does not concern the music at all. This reminds me of drunken, late night dormroom discussions. It's kind of funny that when people discuss totally inane things badly, no one seems to care, but trying to disuss anything serious (well or badly) always inspires someone to compare the discussion to a late-night dorm-room conversation. Anyhow, ignoring John McDonough is one thing. Saying that a disagreement you have with him is of no real significance is another. I can ignore McDonough because he's an idiot and can't see the truth I can see; the truth which I might then relate to thee. Saying we have opposite views and that both those views are all well and good says something about the object of the disagreement. It says it is insignificant. We can avoid the dorm-room problem by a) not being drunk yet; and B) having a bit of care in writing and interpreting. --eric Are you getting credit in some undergrad class for this thread?

I don't think so. If I choose ignore the writings of John McDonough it may diminish your view of me (if you are aware of it), but does not concern the music at all. This reminds me of drunken, late night dormroom discussions.

The review could have been worse. Best of luck with this FINE project.

Very few opportunities for an Iowa farm kid but the first was Shearing's quintet at the KRNT Theater. The first "real" jazz group was Shelly Manne with Conte, Kamuca, Freeman and Budwig. Next was Brubeck. Conte Candoli invited me to the hotel to give me his Crown lp and Brubeck invited me to a party at the Hotel Fort Des Moines. Brubeck soon asked me to go with him to a steak house, to escape the "socialites" of DM. The extraordinary kindness of these men (and Duke E shortly thereafter) cemented my relationship with the music. Somewhere in there, the Four Freshmen were favorites.

CRAP! Give the artists and the "producers" some credit. Let someone with more information make decisions. Just because something is on tape does not mean that you NEED to hear it. We all need protection or editing - silly posts notwithstanding. Alfred Lion decided Andrew's "Judgement" needed to be heard before "Smoke Stack". He decided to leave a quintet date in the can 'cause it would not do Andrew's career any good at that point. Give these guys some credit. Reputations are at stake here.

The Blue Note revered here died when Alfred retired. The remnants lived until Frank died. Anything else is something else. The current owners of the legacy are doing a decent job of keeping the history alive. Not perfect, but OK. What ever they do to keep the label name alive (and reissues coming) is just fine. It could be a lot worse. I know these sentiments were stated above, but I want to put it into one post.

I know Bob Koester, of Delmark, talked to/interviewed Jerome about his Apollo days. Maybe an email to Bob at the Delmark website would be helpful.

Not yet.

Ole Dude And The Fundance Kid is the way the composer spelled it - take it up with Phil Woods.

The Old Dude and the Fundance Kid Arnett's final recording session. Found this one a year ago, sealed for $3. B) You guys are confusing 2 different records: BeeHive 7017 Arnett Cobb "Keep On Pushin'" w/Joe Newman, Al Grey, Junior Mance, George Duvivier and Panama Francis (recorded June 27, 1984) Uptown 2719 Budd Johnson/Phil Woods "The Ole Dude & the Fundance Kid w/ Richard Wyands, George Duvivier and Bill Goodwin (recorded Feb 4, 1984)

Just to top off the conversation about Ran, I want to say he's a very warm guy and a great person to engage in musical conversation. I will never forget a long Saturday afternoon in my apartment with Ran, Terry Martin, John Litweiler and Ann. We had a great time talking, playing records, etc. I remember amazing him with a Blue Note record - James P Johnson's "Caprice Rag". Sorry to make it personal, but wanted to say Ran is a very nice guy. Now that I think about it, Larry Kart was probably there too.

Mobley first - it is at least 4 years old and marked for deletion soon.

If you don't have most of the Mobley, or have the Eldridge stuff in any form, buy them. For "music" they are top notch. If you are looking for an investment, I don't care.

Yup, that's how it is/was. 16" radio transcription discs were like this too. In those days the physics of an arm and needle moving inward caused excess friction on the outer groove wall. This was an effort to ease that pressure. Ah, the days of vinyl. My edit changed the word "inner" to "outer".

If you have the chance, take the elevator ride up and look at the view at night. Worth the effort. Otherwise, no poor advice given.

Now you sound like my father. Shit!

It might have "timed out" without them noticing.

Music like this may be very interesting - depends on your point of view. Armstrong was "guilty" of this by emphasizing the solo. Ellington was criticized for "Creole Rhapsody", "Reminiscing in Tempo" and endless other pieces. On the other hand, Keith drove me nuts 'til I stopped listening about 20 years ago. To each his own.

Just reach "down there" and hit the "off" button. It will go away.

It has been out for quite a while but I bet it didn't sell well.

The Powell trios with Ruby are important enough to put up with the programming nonsense. One of the Powell discs includes my favorite recording of Liza (great tune) and Braff plays his ass off. The sound is terrific on the Vanguard reissues and we won't likely get "corrected" versions. Buy 'em all and make your own cdrs.

Isn't "overly redundent"....................(and misspelled)?

I suggest working for JRM/Delmark for a year, start your own label and live the rest of your life with the consequences.

You don't think some seasoned collectors want better masterings of "classic recordings"? The RVG is also slipping in some sides normally relegated to the Conn series, and they are cheaper.