Chuck Nessa

Sadly, I also just tipped Definitive/Jazz Factory/Fresh Sounds.

Another Birdland date 3/31/51 with Bird, Diz, Bud, Potter & Haynes. I first had this on a Saga lp, then a Columbia lp and it must be out 15 ways now. Don't ask when it will be available but, Uptown will has reached an agreement with Lorraine Gillespie to issue a May 1945 Town Hall concert with Diz, Bird, Al Haig, Curly Russell, Max Roach with guest appearances by Don Byas and Sid Catlett. The program is astounding, and it is very well recorded. Both Town Hall and Carnegie provided professional recording services, and this comes from the original acetates recorded at the concert This comes from the time between the Diz/Bird Guilds and the KoKo session. I think it is the earliest recording of Max with Bird.

When I saw the header I hoped Pops had been left out. Thanks. Tough choice (it would have been easier for me if you included Henry Allen), but I decided on Roy for sentimental reasons.

These are "reasonable" big label transfers, but since I want more material I have gone elsewhere. For the time being, I have settled on the Classics and Neatworks (for the alternates). These give decent transfers and all the material.

Dickie Wells, Sam Nanton, JC Higginbotham, Bill Harris, Lawrance Brown - in that order.

Within the stylistic limitation, I can't vote. Jimmy Raney would get my vote, with Jimmy Gourley not far behind.

Amazing. In 1966 or '67, the Guess Who arrived at Delmark looking for a record deal (they thought they might contain enough Blues to attract the label). I declined and sent them to the Chicago office of RCA with a contact name. I guess it worked out for them, though I never heard back.

The Uptown cd will be available within the next couple of weeks. It is a package similar to the Uptown Mingus project, with a big booklet outside the jewel box. It contains 2 interviews with Eager by Ira Gitler and Bob Sunenblick. The music is astounding - Duels with Serge Chaloff, a quartet date with Dick Twardzik and an apartment jam with Bird. Mr E was looking forward to this release to reintroduce himself to the world, and his (almost) new home in California.

Also understand. you must take all "quotes" by Paul Bley with a grain of salt. Paul is an aquaintance of mine (for about 30 years) and though he's a great artist, he has agendas. The first one is Paul.

Sorry, Laimbeer made me alergic to the Pistons.

hey why not leave the girl alone. she seems a fragile sort, and could develop into something really important for BN and EMI. We are the beneficiaries of her success, as well.

In Bruckner, I'm a great fan of conductor Jascha Horenstein. He made relatively few commercial recording, but I've managed to collect Horenstein recordings of all of "the nine", and 2nd versions of 6, 8 and 9. A release by BBC Legends contains 8 and 9 recorded in the '70s. The recording of 8 is one of the most powerful performances of anything I've heard. Not note perfect, and decent '70s broadcast sound, but amazing. Though a completely different character, I also love the various recordings by Eugen Jochum. His 2nd series with Dresden is available in an inexpensive EMI box, but the DG series is good as well. Once you have favorite versions of the symphonies, it is very worthwhile to check out the budget series on Naxos by George Tintner. Many times he uses different versions of the pieces, and the differences are sometimes amazing. Tintner was an excellent Brucknerian.

Before this Bartok thread becomes a Janacek thread, let me add some recommendations. The Kocsis series is now up to 8 volumes, not counting the Concerti (which are my favorite versions). All of the Ivan Fischer orchestral discs are worthwhile. For the string quartets I prefer the Keller Quartet (cheap) or their teachers, the Vegh Quartet. Naxos has a number of good bargains including the Violin Sonatas, Concerti, Rhapsodies, Contrasts with Gyorgy Pauk and the piano concerti by Jando/Ligeti. The 2nd Violin concerto is one of my favorite pieces - my favorite by far is a recording from the early '50s by Ivry Gitlis with Horenstein conducting. This is available cheaply on a Vox double, as is a very worthwhile set of the "concerted" piano works with Gyorgy Sandor. Not currently in print, but if you can find the Ferenc Fricsay recording of the Divertimento (on a deleted DG disc), you will never take this piece for granted.

Roscoe's disc is called "The Bad Guys" and is on the Around Jazz/il manifesto label. It says "Live In Fano - Jazz by the Sea- July 2000". I have no idea of the availability or who might distribute it. Roscoe sent me this copy. The Pinnock box was only $30, so I can live with 'em all.

No chance to listen yet. I just opened the boxes. I also received a new (Italian) disc by Roscoe Mitchell and the Note Factory (Leo Smith is the trumpeter on this one), and an 11 cd set of the Mozart symphonies by Trevor Pinnock. I'll be spinning new sides for a few days.

After some online speculation about the "health" of Okka, 2 new releases hit my door today. "Furniture Music" is a the first solo project by Ken Vandermark, and a group called Triage (Dave Rempis- alto/tenor, Jason Ajemian-bass, Tim Daisey-drums) is represented by a date called "Twenty Minute Cliff".

I would be delighted to find threads on Webern, Tommy Johnson, Billy Banks, Machaut, Berwald, Borodin, Red Allen, Tommy McClennan, Haydn, Horenstein, Furtwangler, Joseph Jarman, Elliot Carter, etc. I glaze over when discussions of early recordings center on transfers. Music first, technology after that. I do know this is a Jazz group, but the art-form has always expanded using techniques from other musics. Knowledge of some of these influences are invaluable. My good friend Duke Ellington said something about only 2 kinds of music - good and bad. PS. I have the audasity of calling Duke a good friend since that's how he addressed me on one occasion. Gimme that amount of slack.

I'm in knots waiting for you to expose yourself. In the meantime, I think I'll go to Windsor and tie one on.

OK folks, we have a 4 page thread, with 8 people posting. Lots of us only did it once (including me). This is really important. Let us hear from the rest of you. Step up to the plate.

Ah, forget it. Randy plays drums like the son of a tenor player!

Ed, first shot at mine for $10 plus postage. I will settle for the RVG B) .

This board is my internet home, BUT for me it is too locked into music from '55-65'. This is fine music, but only one decade. I really don't understand the "taste limits". Music be happnin' for thousands of years, and maybe into the future. Why only one decade. Branch out folks.

Or an open fifth, with a lemon twist.

I wonder if Babe's people have made tour information available to Verve. This reminds me, when Michael Cuscuna was preparing a series of Coltrane issues for Impulse in the late '70s', he made a presentation to the marketing crew, and a young exec stood up and said something like "If Coltrane is so important, why don't we do a 'direct to disc' date with him and back it up with a tour?"

No, it is pronounced "Par Tay".