New 'Jazz in Paris' double CD : BILL COLEMAN

[birdanddizzy]

Take a look to the Universal website

Release date 5 december 2005 (Monday)

--Steven

[Chuck Nessa]

Link doesn't work for me. Is this a French thing?

[Kalo]

Funny, the link worked for me (sloowwwlyyy), and I'm on a dial-up connection, with an iMac DV Special Edition running system 9.0.

Looks interesting, though I have to admit that I was underwhelmed by the previous Jazz in Paris Coleman disc From Boogie to Funk, recorded in 1960. The French Universal website had no recording date for these Phillips dates, as far as I could tell, but the track list from the site says 1950s at the earliest to me.

Here it is :

Jumpin' at Pleyel

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Bill Coleman / Jean-Pierre Sasson

2 mn 34 s 2

Si jolie

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Eddy Marnay / Philippe Gerard

3 mn 06 s 3

The blues jumped out and got me

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : James Davis / Bill Coleman / Jack Hoffman

2 mn 50 s 4

I'm coming Virginia

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Donald Heywood / Will Marion Cook

2 mn 56 s 5

Come on a' my house

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Ross Bagdasarian / Adam Bagdasarian / William Saroyan

3 mn 21 s 6

Tenderly

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Jack Lawrence / Lawrence / Walter Gross

3 mn 06 s 7

Knucklehead

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Dicky Wells / Bill Coleman

3 mn 28 s 8

Baby wont you please come home

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Clarence Williams / Charles Warfield

5 mn 03 s 9

One o'clock jump

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Count Basie

5 mn 03 s 10

Perdido

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Juan Tizol / Hans Lengsfelder / Ervin Drake

3 mn 14 s 11

When the saints go marching in

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Traditional

2 mn 24 s 12

Ghost of a chance

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Bing Crosby / Ned Washington / V Young

4 mn 28 s 13

Basin street blues

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Spencer Williams

5 mn 02 s 14

Lover man

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Miriam Burton

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : James Davis / Roger Ramirez / James Sherman

3 mn 03 s 15

Summertime

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Miriam Burton

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : George Gershwin / Dubose B. Heyward

1 mn 57 s 16

Jumpin with Symphony Sid

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : George Gershwin / Dubose B. Heyward

1 mn 52 s 17

Trombone blues

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Clarence Williams / Tom Nixon

1 mn 36 s 18

St James infirmary

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Irving Mills

4 mn 43 s 19

Sheik of Araby

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Harry B. Smith / Ted Snyder / Francis Wheeler

3 mn 09 s DUREE TOTALE62 mn 55 s

The Complete Philips Recordings

CD 2

1

Red top

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Lionel Hampton / Ben Kynard

3 mn 58 s

2

Royal garden blues

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Spencer Williams / Clarence Williams

3 mn 44 s

3

Solitude

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Duke Ellington / Irving Mills / Eddie Delange

5 mn 10 s

4

Tea for two

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Vincent Youmans / Irving Caesar

3 mn 12 s

5

Chinatown

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Jean Schwartz / William Jerome

1 mn 50 s

6

Drum face

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Zutty Singleton

4 mn 53 s

7

Muskrat ramble

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Ray Gilbert / Kid Ory

3 mn 25 s

8

Black and blue

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Andy Razaf / Harry Brooks / Fats Waller

3 mn 48 s

9

Idaho

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Jesse Stone

4 mn 53 s

10

Out of nowhere

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : John Green / Edward Heyman

3 mn 53 s

11

Indiana

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : James F Hanley / Ballard Macdonald

3 mn 16 s

12

Saint Louis blues

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : William Christopher Handy

7 mn 04 s

13

Jumpin' at Pleyel

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Bill Coleman

2 mn 35 s

14

Si jolie

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Eddy Marnay / Philippe Gerard

3 mn 11 s

15

The blues jumped up and got me

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : James Davis / Bill Coleman / Jack Hoffman

2 mn 51 s

16

The blues jumped up and got me

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : James Davis / Bill Coleman / Jack Hoffman

2 mn 50 s

17

Come on a' my house

INTERPRETE VOCAL : Bill Coleman

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Ross Bagdasarian / Adam Bagdasarian / William Saroyan

3 mn 19 s

18

Come on a' my house

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Ross Bagdasarian / Adam Bagdasarian / William Saroyan

3 mn 15 s

19

Tenderly

AUTEUR/COMPOSITEUR : Jack Lawrence / Walter Gross

3 mn 06 s

DUREE TOTALE 70 mn 13 s

[brownie]

The first six sides of the Bill Coleman Jazz In Paris are from a 1951 studio session with Jay Cameron on alto, Art Simmons on piano, Dave Pochonet on drums and others. These were issued on 78RPM discs and never reappeared.

Most of the rest comes from an October 1952 concert at Salle Pleyel with - among others - Dicky Wells, Guy Lafitte and Zutty Singleton.

The concert was released on two hard-to-find 10inchers. Got battered copies of these two (for something like one euro each!).

Nice concert (with a very enthusiasted audience). Will be glad to listen to these in new sound!

Another link

[brownie]

There's another double CD coming out as part of the Jazz In Paris series! A reissue of rare albums from the neglected French tenor saxophonist Jean-Claude Fohrenbach:

Fohrenbach French Sound

The link does not provide informations on who's playing in. The Lord has no personnel listed except for four sides with the Georges Arvanitas Trio (Jacky Samson on bass, Charles Saudrais on drums)

[neveronfriday]

With these two, my JiP collection is inching towards a new shelf, the old 80cm one not being enough anymore. I hope they keep it going long enough to fill another shelf. I've discovered tons of wonderful music via this series.

[birdanddizzy]

There's another double CD coming out as part of the Jazz In Paris series! A reissue of rare albums from the neglected French tenor saxophonist Jean-Claude Fohrenbach:

Fohrenbach French Sound

The link does not provide informations on who's playing in. The Lord has no personnel listed except for four sides with the Georges Arvanitas Trio (Jacky Samson on bass, Charles Saudrais on drums)

There are extracts on the Fnac website : click here

This album seems to be in stores since november ? Will verify today!

Have a nice day!

Steven

[Bluerein]

Maybe covered elswhere but what is volume 1 in this series? (Coleman is 2 and Jean-Claude Fohrenbach is 3 so there must be a 1 as well).

[ejp626]

Maybe covered elswhere but what is volume 1 in this series? (Coleman is 2 and Jean-Claude Fohrenbach is 3 so there must be a 1 as well).

Sasha Distel Jazz Guitar

[birdanddizzy]

I've bought the two sets yesterday (saturday 3rd) in a Fnac store in Paris.

I join the back covers for the details

Bill Coleman - "The complete Philips recordings"

The sound is just amazing, as always !

[birdanddizzy]

Jean-Claude Fohrenbach - Fohrenbach French Sound

personnal details for CD2 :

JC F. "Sexfide" [06-09]

Roger Guérin, Bernard Vitet : trumpet, bugle

JC Fohrenbach : tenor sax

Pierre Cullaz : guitar

Bibi Rovère : double bass

Jean-Louis Viale : drums

JC F. & Géo Daly [10]

JC F. = tenor sax, organ

Géo Daly = vibraphone

Jacques B. Hess : double bass

Franco Manzecchi : drums

Bonus track [14]

Ivan Jullien : trumpet

Marc Steckar : trombone

JC F. : tenor sax

poss. Jean Vasse : double bass

Claude Vaillant : drums

Really interesting tenor sax and talented arranger, he is "an eternally marginal figure in the French jazz landscape" (Alain Tercinet).

Early 1952, France discovered West Coast musicians like Getz, Warne Marsh, and Jimmy Giuffre. JC Fohrenbach said : "Aha! At last, guys who play like me!"

[king ubu]

These two sets are listed for less than 12€ on French Amazon! Quite a steal! I'll give this a try - they still are listed with only today as release date and it says delivery before x-mas is not possible... that should probably change as soon as they're actually out?

Added that Django one that came late... that one, too, is listed as 2-3 weeks delivery... is it gone already? Is that one so rare? Sold that badly?

[ejp626]

Do you mean Django in Belgium? Or whatever it was called, it was numbered 102. I didn't have any trouble ordering one, but that was a while ago.

[king ubu]

Do you mean Django in Belgium? Or whatever it was called, it was numbered 102. I didn't have any trouble ordering one, but that was a while ago.

Yes, "Place de Brouckère" or however exactly it's called. Missed out on that one till now! Hope it will come through!

[AllenLowe]

anything from that era with Dickey Wells is especially precious, though Coleman's best work was done in the 1930s -

[tjobbe]

...

Yes, "Place de Brouckère" or however exactly it's called. Missed out on that one till now! Hope it will come through!

it should be part of that 5CD box

called Jazz in Belgium (EDIT: the correct title is "From Belgium With Love"). I nearly grabbed it at St. Lazare Fnac recently but put it back on the shelf.

Its priced ca. 40€ HERE

Cheers, Tjobbe

Edited December 5, 2005 by tjobbe

[king ubu]

...

Yes, "Place de Brouckère" or however exactly it's called. Missed out on that one till now! Hope it will come through!

it should be part of that 5CD box

called Jazz in Belgium. I nearly grabbed it at St. Lazare Fnac recently but put it back on the shelf.

Its priced ca. 40€ HERE

Cheers, Tjobbe

I know this was discussed, but being at work.... besides the Django, is the stuff in that set part of other single JiP discs, or is that a set to go for?

[tjobbe]

ja Königliche Dingsbums,

they are all avaliable as single JiT's as well (but not sure if they are all in stock) The french universal side list the 5-fer here: http://www.universalmusic.fr/servlet/Front...0249818020&cd=1 )

Cheers, Tjobbe

Edited December 5, 2005 by tjobbe

[king ubu]

ja Königliche Dingsbums,

they are all avaliable as single JiT's

Cheers, Tjobbe

Thanks! So I won't need it since I have all the others (with a couple of exceptions - things I have in other form, like the Pres, Ascenseur...). I really hope the Django comes through, then!

[Kalo]

I've discovered tons of wonderful music via this series.

You can say that again!

anything from that era with Dickey Wells is especially precious, though Coleman's best work was done in the 1930s -

Love the Coleman/Wells sides myself.

[AllenLowe]

absoutely - it's just that Dickey's playing in the years after the 1930s Paris recordings was inconsistent - moments of brilliance, but a lot of musical drifting. Clearly related to personal stuff, and than, later on, he was beaten and left for dead. He survived the attack but was never the same. I knew him in the last 5 years of his life, when he was still capable of some great playing, but was lonely and basically had just given up on life.

Edited December 6, 2005 by AllenLowe

[Brad]

Dusty Groove indicates that it's delayed but hopefully they'll have it soon.

[ejp626]

Of the on-line stores, I think amazon.fr currently has the lowest prices. However, fnac.com does have 30 second samples of all tracks for both these releases.

[neveronfriday]

I ordered them from Amazon.fr and got a message about a delay until early January.

[tjobbe]

Of the on-line stores, I think amazon.fr currently has the lowest prices. However, fnac.com does have 30 second samples of all tracks for both these releases.

has anyone ordered directly from the universal france shop so far ? They seem to sell the 2-fers for 11€ and-something as well as the single JiP for 6€ plus some resonable flat shipping above certain weight to al EU countries. (Although the Fohrenbach is not yet listed but the Coleman is)

Cheers, Tjobbe