Albert Ayler ESP box set?

[reg]

anyone know anything about this release?

Complete ESP-Disk Recordings - Albert Ayler

Available: Tuesday, October 18, 2005

will all Ayler's ESP recordings fit on 4 discs? also $37.99 sounds quite cheap.

[jazzbo]

I too wish I knew more about this!

[Kalo]

I three!

[Gary]

I found this on the Ayler site http://ayler0.tripod.com/ from October last year

More news from Magnet

The 9 page Ayler article in the current issue of Magnet magazine, ‘Spirits, Ghosts, Witches & Devils’ by Mitch Myers, includes the following paragraph:

“ESP has plans for its own Ayler boxed set, which should be out by the end of the year. Though many details are still unconfirmed, the release will compile Ayler’s ESP catalog and material from his first two tours of Europe. As if to underscore the resurgence of the man’s music, a documentary called Spirits Rejoice: The Life And Legacy Of Albert Ayler will be released in 2005. The film not only researches Ayler’s life but also profiles other members of the free-jazz scene, then and now.”

There are currently two Ayler films in production, one in the States and one in Sweden - I have a feeling this is the American one. As for the ESP box, I guess we have to keep watching the skies.

[Matthew]

Nice pre-order price -- ESP's pricing usually stinks to high heaven.

[jazzbo]

I emailed ESP Disk asking for info. . . we'll see!

[clifford_thornton]

Cool... I wasn't aware this was coming out. Nice to see, of course.

I dunno, their reissues seem rightly-priced to me, on par with everything else. Unless some are marking them up, which is possible.

[porcy62]

I am asking myself: how it will be the mastering quality? I mean that all the ESP reissues, licensed or not, are quite poor in my experience.

[jazzbo]

I don't believe the source material is great. The new ESP DISK remasterings seem very good to me, considering the sources. . . .

[clifford_thornton]

According to my email exchanges with ESP, this was a rumor started by Magnet, and from what I understand, it has been shelved. We'll see in a month!

[Guest Chaney]

This from the ESP site:

Known Bootlegs:

The following products are bootlegs. They are NOT, as claimed, the complete ESP-DISK' recordings, and they are not authorized by ESP-DISK'. They contain outmoded and technically inferior versions of certain of these works.

Authentic, digitally remastered verrsions of these recordings are available on ESP-DISK'. NOTHING IS, for example, contains over 20 minutes of previously unreleased material.

ESP-DISK' is taking appropriate legal action to protect its proprietary rights and those of its artists. Thank you for your support.

With kind regards,

ESP

* Albert Ayler - The Complete ESP-Disk' Recordings

(esp1, Barcode: 646315820226, Distributors: Koch, Runt)

* Sun Ra - The Complete ESP-Disk' Recordings

(esp2, Barcode: 646315820225, Distributors: Koch, Runt)

* Albert Ayler - Slug's Saloon

(Fruit Tree 841, Barcode: 8013252384127, Distributor: City Hall)

* Albert Ayler - Complete Live at Slug's Saloon

(Lone Hill 10101, Barcode: 8436019581018)

[J.A.W.]

This from the ESP site:

Known Bootlegs:

The following products are bootlegs. They are NOT, as claimed, the complete ESP-DISK' recordings, and they are not authorized by ESP-DISK'. They contain outmoded and technically inferior versions of certain of these works.

Authentic, digitally remastered verrsions of these recordings are available on ESP-DISK'. NOTHING IS, for example, contains over 20 minutes of previously unreleased material.

ESP-DISK' is taking appropriate legal action to protect its proprietary rights and those of its artists. Thank you for your support.

With kind regards,

ESP

    * Albert Ayler - The Complete ESP-Disk' Recordings

      (esp1, Barcode: 646315820226, Distributors: Koch, Runt)   

    * Sun Ra - The Complete ESP-Disk' Recordings

      (esp2, Barcode: 646315820225, Distributors: Koch, Runt)

    * Albert Ayler - Slug's Saloon

      (Fruit Tree 841, Barcode: 8013252384127, Distributor: City Hall)

    * Albert Ayler - Complete Live at Slug's Saloon

      (Lone Hill 10101, Barcode: 8436019581018)

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Good to hear they're taking legal action. Practices like these should be halted in my opinion.

[jazzbo]

Yes. After ESP-Disk's silence about the upcoming set, I canceled my pre-order. Took them long enough to update their website!

[Gary]

one of the 'bootlegs' has appeared on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...=ADME:B:SS:UK:1

[Matthew]

one of the 'bootlegs' has appeared on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...=ADME:B:SS:UK:1

Are only Spiritual Unity, Bells, New York Eye & Ear Control, and Spirits Rejoice, going to be in this set? No Slugs Saloon?

[clifford_thornton]

Slugs is on its own as a 2CD on ESP, remastered and quite clean!

[brownie]

Those Abraxas people also issued a 4CD box of previously released ESP material of Sun Ra. Same type of box as the Ayler one.

I have been in touch lately with Bernard Stollman re various matters. He is trying to find ways to put an end to these illicit releases.

[Matthew]

Slugs is on its own as a 2CD on ESP, remastered and quite clean!

I'll have to look for that, I have an Italian 2cd import, and the sound is anything but quite clean.

[Chuck Nessa]

Slugs is on its own as a 2CD on ESP, remastered and quite clean!

I'll have to look for that, I have an Italian 2cd import, and the sound is anything but quite clean.

Wouldn't it easily fit on one disc?

[Matthew]

Slugs is on its own as a 2CD on ESP, remastered and quite clean!

I'll have to look for that, I have an Italian 2cd import, and the sound is anything but quite clean.

Wouldn't it easily fit on one disc?

Ye$, it doe$, but who know$ why they $ell two cd$ in$tead of one.

Edited December 21, 2005 by Matthew

[Guest]

Actually, the music on the two discs comes to something like 79:40, so it would barely fit on one disc. All things considered, I'd much rather have it on two discs and pay the extra money than to have one super-long 80 minute disc.

Edited December 21, 2005 by David Jones

[robert h.]

I've received the newly remasered Slug's double set and I can confirm that it sounds quite clean - great job. I hope Bernard keeps 'em coming. I picked up the Marion Brown recently and it blew my mind!

[clifford_thornton]

I'm wondering if they used different tape sources for the Brown sessions - the extra track, "Mephistopheles," is way more full and in-yr-face than the rest of the disc. Strange, because as I understand it, "Capricorn Moon," "27 Cooper Square," and "Mephistopheles" were recorded at one session and "Exhibition" at another.

[felser]

I'm wondering if they used different tape sources for the Brown sessions - the extra track, "Mephistopheles," is way more full and in-yr-face than the rest of the disc. Strange, because as I understand it, "Capricorn Moon," "27 Cooper Square," and "Mephistopheles" were recorded at one session and "Exhibition" at another.

What's the best place to get the Marion Brown set? I don't see it on Amazon at all. I just ordered the Sonny Simmons from Caiman through Amazon, will replace the two single CD's I have from that set. I only have 'Why Not' from Brown, not the quartet. I had it on vinyl in a previous lifetime when I was in college.

[clifford_thornton]

Forced Exposure has it for $13.50, though they are kind of slow to ship.