trane_fanatic Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) Buddy blows a gasket on the bandstand and cusses a storm! Don't know the exact date of this though. WARNING : Do not play at work or if you are offended by profanity. http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/audio/BuddyRich.mp3 Edited January 21, 2005 by trane_fanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesbed Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 This makes me content to be a listener of jazz, a jazz aficionado, rather than a player of jazz. Especially those jazzy drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Ah, Buddy. What a charmer. By coincidence, tonight I happened to see the Seinfeld episode where he quotes one of the Buddy tirades (not the one linked here). It's the episode called "The Butter Shave" or something like that- Kramer is shaving w/butter, George is pretending to be handicapped for his new boss (Gordon Jump from WKRP), Elaine's breaking up w/Putty and Banya's riding Jerry's coattails. Jerry decides to "take a dive" and see how Banya does "UP there, WITHOUT all the assistance" (the Buddy quote). I couldn't believe the first time I heard this- I was thinking "Man, that's about as obscure a reference as you'll ever hear on a TV sitcom" - 99.9% of viewers probably didn't even notice it. A friend of a friend was playing at a party in NYC that Jerry was attending and got to talk to him for a minute. He asked him about the Buddy tapes and Jerry said that "Yeah, we listen to a lot of that kind of stuff to get ideas for the show". I heard another episode where George quotes what I believe is a tape of Col. Sanders outtakes from a commercial. Anyone heard THAT one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) This makes me content to be a listener of jazz, a jazz aficionado, rather than a player of jazz. Especially those jazzy drums. You know ALL the bandleaders had moments like that- Dorsey, Miller, Shaw, Woody (I know that from personal experience) etc. They're for the most part just letting off steam and asserting their leadership. I hear Buddy would often be laughing with the guys shortly after a blow-up. I think many of Buddy's musicians (if they weathered the first few tirades) came to realize it was not as bad as it first seemed. I'm sure the first time anyone encountered it was a shock, though. Edited January 21, 2005 by Free For All Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesbed Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 I've often wondered what it would have been like to be on the nasty end of a tirade from Miles Davis or Thelonious Monk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trane_fanatic Posted January 21, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Yep, I imagine a young Tony Williams or Paul Chambers must have gotten some verbal thrashings back then. I've read that he's actually punched Trane and Chambers. Monk and Miles have gotten into it too, not to mention the Red Garland fiasco during the recording of "Milestones" and the tension between Roach and Mingus during "Money Jungle". Anyhow, here's some more cursefests from notable names... NOT WORK SAFE Curseorama Casey Kasem http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/audio/CaseyCasem.mp3 Orson Welles http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/audio/OrsonWells.mp3 The Troggs http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/audio/TheTroggs.mp3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Bassist Jay Anderson has used some of these tapes as sources for tune titles- IN July (Orson Welles) Most Folks (Col. Sanders) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wheel Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 You can get the Col. Sanders stuff among others at Bill Carrothers's site: http://www.carrothers.com/billyboy/comedyjukebox.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) and let's not forget Mingus calling Eldridge, Hines, Hawk, et al "old ni**ers" Edited January 21, 2005 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Funny stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maren Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Orson Welles http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/audio/OrsonWells.mp3 The Troggs http://www.rockandrollbadboy.com/audio/TheTroggs.mp3 Those two are favorites of a recording engineer I worked with -- he played them for bands in his studio -- both as comic relief and as cautionary tales! Much-quoted line from the Troggs tape (maybe all the more striking because there's no cursing -- the speaker has almost given up on the guy who can't nail the take and sounds incredulous, pleading, near to tears of frustation): "You have PLAYED it this EVENING!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 This might be a good time to re-recommend this garden of delights: http://www2.bitstream.net/~tgg/tgg/ No celebrities, but so much the better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Of course, it it's celebrities you want... http://www.fadetoblack.com/outtakes/index1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGUD missile Posted January 22, 2005 Report Share Posted January 22, 2005 (edited) This makes me content to be a listener of jazz, a jazz aficionado, rather than a player of jazz. Especially those jazzy drums. You know ALL the bandleaders had moments like that- Dorsey, Miller, Shaw, Woody (I know that from personal experience) etc. They're for the most part just letting off steam and asserting their leadership. I hear Buddy would often be laughing with the guys shortly after a blow-up. I think many of Buddy's musicians (if they weathered the first few tirades) came to realize it was not as bad as it first seemed. I'm sure the first time anyone encountered it was a shock, though. I have a mp3 of the "Buddy Bus Rant" that a friend of mine carefully spliced together with the Basie Sonny Payne showcase "Cute" ( with Buddy* replacing* Payne ) It's a fucking riot! BTW: you omitted a real winner in the ranting bandleader sweepstakes: Si Zentner .. Edited January 22, 2005 by SGUD missile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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