bluesForBartok Posted January 14, 2005 Report Posted January 14, 2005 I just got a copy of this and I must say he plays great! Anyone heard this guy and / or this recording? Excellent stuff. Quote
etherbored Posted January 14, 2005 Report Posted January 14, 2005 yes, i've had this for 3 months now and really dig it. i also have his previous release, round about roma, arranged by the brilliant vince mendoza. , -e- Quote
bary01 Posted January 14, 2005 Report Posted January 14, 2005 (edited) I saw this young player Live on jazz club in Paris , an outstanding performance !! Some recommandations of this Italian Artist ( from Roma ) VOLARE A PRIMA VISTA ROUND ABOUT ROMA PARKER'S MOOD If you don't know what is a "as fast a possible tempo" , play "Donna lee" from "Parker's Mood" Dibatista cd Edited January 14, 2005 by bary01 Quote
kulu se mama Posted January 14, 2005 Report Posted January 14, 2005 i thought that his first blue note release in 2000 simply titled "stefano di battista," and featuring elvin jones, jacky terrasson, and rosario bonnaccorso was the best straight ahead jazz release that year. Quote
DTMX Posted January 15, 2005 Report Posted January 15, 2005 i thought that his first blue note release in 2000 simply titled "stefano di battista," and featuring elvin jones, jacky terrasson, and rosario bonnaccorso was the best straight ahead jazz release that year. Ditto! Quote
jazzmessenger Posted January 15, 2005 Report Posted January 15, 2005 i thought that his first blue note release in 2000 simply titled "stefano di battista," and featuring elvin jones, jacky terrasson, and rosario bonnaccorso was the best straight ahead jazz release that year. Ditto! I must agree with you guys. I really love that CD. Quote
GA Russell Posted January 15, 2005 Report Posted January 15, 2005 (edited) I too really like that CD, although I'm not sure I would call it a year's best, but I won't nit pick! It reminded me of a pre-Passport Klaus Doldinger album on World Pacific from about 1970 entitled Blues Happening. Edited January 15, 2005 by GA Russell Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 15, 2005 Report Posted January 15, 2005 I liked his first US release. Elvin Jones was a big reason why I liked it. I think "Round About Roma" sounds like "Kenny G with strings". I gave it away to a friend who likes smooth jazz. I'll have to be on the lookout for this one. Later, Kevin Quote
Bluerein Posted January 15, 2005 Report Posted January 15, 2005 Kevin, Kevin, Kevin......how can you make such a statement. I guess you didn't listen too closely because it's a suberb CD not in the least because of Vince Mendoza who I admire greatly. Quote
etherbored Posted January 15, 2005 Report Posted January 15, 2005 Kevin, Kevin, Kevin......how can you make such a statement. I guess you didn't listen too closely because it's a suberb CD not in the least because of Vince Mendoza who I admire greatly. --- t h a n k you! -e- Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 15, 2005 Report Posted January 15, 2005 (edited) I have listened to "Round About Roma" many times. In fact, I spun it over the Christmas holidays at my in-laws house. They're the smooth jazz fans that I gave it to. To my ears, and theirs, it sounds like a smooth jazz date. It does not sound like any "with strings" jazz date that I have. My favorite strings date is Stan Getz "Focus" but Art Pepper's "Winter Moon" is also up there. Cannonball's is a good one too... and no, I have to admit, I do not have Charlie Parker with strings. I should rectify that some day. EDIT - BTW, this does not mean that "Round About Roma" is "bad", it's just not my style. I like DiBattista's other US release and I will try to get his latest. Later, Kevin Edited January 15, 2005 by Kevin Bresnahan Quote
etherbored Posted January 16, 2005 Report Posted January 16, 2005 more to the point, are you familiar with or appreciative of mendoza? -e- Quote
robviti Posted January 16, 2005 Report Posted January 16, 2005 (edited) Kevin, Kevin, Kevin......how can you make such a statement. I guess you didn't listen too closely because it's a suberb CD not in the least because of Vince Mendoza who I admire greatly. --- t h a n k you! -e- hold on just a minute fellas! someone politely disagrees with your opinion of a recording, so they must not be listening to it properly? it's a superb cd because you say it is? according to amg, round about roma features a "silky smooth jazz touch." they go on to say, "some jazz aficionados may view this production as being a tad synthetic or more conducive to department store music." while i'm sure you don't agree with their assessment, it's an apt description to some people's ears, including my own. the sound clips i've heard of parker's mood, on the other hand, are much more to my liking. still, i wonder why di battista chose the same title as roy hargrove's 1995 tribute to bird? Edited January 16, 2005 by jazzshrink Quote
JSngry Posted January 16, 2005 Report Posted January 16, 2005 I only know Vince Mendoza from Joni Mitchell's BOTH SIDES NOW album, but I enjoyed his work therein. Sort of a fsuion between Nelson Riddle & Gordon Jenkins, which although not especially "original" in and of itself, is still quite skillful (and perhaps even evolutionarily necessary) in reconciling the opposite tendencies of those two men in the creation of a kind of "collective memory sound" of two of the most prolific/influential arrangers of the era. Quote
king ubu Posted January 16, 2005 Report Posted January 16, 2005 Nice to see a thread on di Battista! I consider him one of my favourite alto saxophonists of late. His sound is big and beautiful, and he's beyond being a virtuoso, it seems. I heard several live gigs of his quartet with Rosario Bonaccorso (b), André Ceccarelli (d), and Eric Legnini (p). They must be one of the best hard-/post-bop units around, with VERY open ears, interacting in a way that goes far beyond the usual bop band. I just picked up Parker's Mood in a used copy-crap version this week and didn't yet have a time to listen, but it seems to be more of an all star affair, with Barron and Riley replacing his bandmates. I wish his quartet (which is, or probably was, sometimes expanded to be a quintet with the addition of Flavio Boltro, another italian Blue Note or ex-Blue Note recording artist) would do a record (or even better: a live record)! Besides the Parker disc I have "Round About Roma" and have to admit that I didn't yet really warm to it. It's a very subtle record, thus I understand it might sound like smooth jazz to some ears, but I think there IS more to it than that. Will have to spin it again. Whatever: big to di Battista! (by the way: the Elvin connection: Elvin called him up to play in his band, which seems - if Battista's interviews are to be believed - to have been of crucial importance for di Battista's musical growth and evolving) ubu Quote
etherbored Posted January 16, 2005 Report Posted January 16, 2005 hold on just a minute fellas! someone politely disagrees with your opinion of a recording, so they must not be listening to it properly? yeah, i'd say that's an accurate deduction... -_- no, not at all. don't take my comments to mean anything of the sort. still, i wonder why di battista chose the same title as roy hargrove's 1995 tribute to bird? my money's on the odds that batitista's not even aware of that recording... Quote
DTMX Posted January 16, 2005 Report Posted January 16, 2005 still, i wonder why di battista chose the same title as roy hargrove's 1995 tribute to bird? my money's on the odds that batitista's not even aware of that recording... Or Sadao Watanabe's 1985 release, Parker's Mood. Quote
etherbored Posted January 17, 2005 Report Posted January 17, 2005 Or Sadao Watanabe's 1985 release, Parker's Mood. --- a FINE record...! Quote
king ubu Posted January 17, 2005 Report Posted January 17, 2005 still, i wonder why di battista chose the same title as roy hargrove's 1995 tribute to bird? my money's on the odds that batitista's not even aware of that recording... Or Sadao Watanabe's 1985 release, Parker's Mood. That would have been Blue Note's business, I guess? Quote
robviti Posted January 17, 2005 Report Posted January 17, 2005 hold on just a minute fellas! someone politely disagrees with your opinion of a recording, so they must not be listening to it properly? yeah, i'd say that's an accurate deduction... -_- no, not at all. don't take my comments to mean anything of the sort. "I guess you didn't listen too closely because it's a suberb CD..." it's this remark, and your quoted agreement of it, that prompted my response. my point is this: music appreciation is all a matter of opinion, isn't it? Quote
Bluerein Posted January 17, 2005 Report Posted January 17, 2005 Jazzshrink: I think Kevin B can speak for himself (which he did already) and we all respect each others oponions on this board and luckily can disagree from time to time. Quote
king ubu Posted January 17, 2005 Report Posted January 17, 2005 Jazzshrink: I think Kevin B can speak for himself (which he did already) and we all respect each others oponions on this board and luckily can disagree from time to time. and now back to the music, folks! Quote
cannonball-addict Posted January 17, 2005 Report Posted January 17, 2005 He is really burnin. I got into him throguh Mike Weil who sent me his playing with that great scatter Gege Telesforo. He has the type of chops and stylistic motivations that can go two ways - one he can sound all metallic and smooth doing all the altissimo acrobatics that guys like Brecker sound like when you put them in a pop setting. But the other side of Battista just wants to blow hard-bop with the new things that people like Hargrove and Kenny Garrett and a host of others put in for flava. It's really all about what setting (with what supporting players) this guy is in. He can swing hard and he can play "to the swooning crowd" too. He's just versatile - only one way we purists take it as an affront against our straight-ahead values and principles. Quote
mke Posted January 17, 2005 Report Posted January 17, 2005 I found "Parker's Mood" to be one of the most pointless records I have ever heard. Virtuosically played, of course, but I fail to see the interest of slavish recreation (note-for-note at times). Why buy this when the originals are available cheaper? I'm also in the '"Round About Roma" is dull' camp. Quote
etherbored Posted January 17, 2005 Report Posted January 17, 2005 music appreciation is all a matter of opinion, isn't it? --- indeed it is, friend... -e- Quote
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