Tatum/Webster Quartet

[Guest]

i have their version of all the things you are on the time/life comp. (taken as a ballad- probably the nicest version of them all)-- and tonite another tatum webster song was used in a movie i saw from '80 called 'they all laughed' (starring audrey hepburn, john ritter and patty hansen)--anyways- can someone in the know tell me if theres a full cd of Tatum/Webster's band thats in print which i can pick up? also any session info would be great-- many thanks!

[jazzbo]

This cd is available on Pablo:

Original lp notes:

[J.A.W.]

The Tatum Group Masterpieces, Vol.8 - Pablo CD 2405431

Recorded in Los Angeles on September 11, 1956

Personnel:

Ben Webster - tenor saxophone

Art Tatum - piano

Red Callender - bass

Bill Douglass - drums

Tracks:

Gone with the Wind

All the Things You Are

Have You Met Miss Jones

My One and Only Love

Night and Day

My Ideal

Where Or When

Gone with the Wind (alternate take)

Gone with the Wind (alternate take)

Have You Met Miss Jones (alternate take)

Available from CDUniverse and other stores.

Edited February 12, 2006 by J.A.W.

[Alexander Hawkins]

This album is simply stunning. Webster is a perfect foil for Tatum, and they both seem to me to be on top form. All of the Tatum group sessions are fantastic IMHO. A particular favourite is the trio session - also with Red Callender on bass, but this time Jo Jones, not Bill Douglass, on cans.

[Guest]

do any tatum live concert/club recordings exist?

[brownie]

The Storyville label is currently releasing a series of Art Tatum live recordings.

Details can be found here

I have several of these releases and they are all superb!

[Stereojack]

do any tatum live concert/club recordings exist?

There's plenty of live Tatum out there. I highly recommend "God Is In the House" originally on Muse, currently on High Note.

[Alexander Hawkins]

do any tatum live concert/club recordings exist?

There's plenty of live Tatum out there. I highly recommend "God Is In the House" originally on Muse, currently on High Note.

I don't have mine to hand - but if anyone knows offhand, is the GIITH material duplicated on the Tatum Chronological Classics?

[Kevin Bresnahan]

The XRCD of this date is one of the best-sounding CDs ever made. It comes out of my speakers like I'm there. I also picked up a 24 bit-96 kHz DVD-Audio version on an expensive Japanese import and it sounds very similar to the XRCD.

BTW, the Pablo CD says "Stereo" but to my ears, it sounds mono. If it's stereo, it's not panned very much. Was Granz experimenting with stereo in 1956?

Kevin

[Hank]

do any tatum live concert/club recordings exist?

Verve did an excellent 2CD collection called 20th Century Piano Genius. It's a collection of home recordings, before a small, attentive audience, done in Hollywood in 1950 and 1955. The sound is very good.

Edited February 12, 2006 by Hank

[Stereojack]

BTW, the Pablo CD says "Stereo" but to my ears, it sounds mono. If it's stereo, it's not panned very much. Was Granz experimenting with stereo in 1956?

It's not stereo. If the individual disc is mono, that would be an improvement over the box, which is rechanneled stereo, perpetrated by Pablo in the 1970's, and carried over by Fantasy when they issued the CD version.

[Kalo]

do any tatum live concert/club recordings exist?

Verve did an excellent 2CD collection called 20th Century Piano Genius. It's a collection of home recordings, before a small, attentive audience, done in Hollywood in 1950 and 1955. The sound is very good.

Yes, yes, yes. Great stuff.

The Tatum/Webster session is justifiably included on almost every top 100 best jazz recordings lists I've ever seen. There's something about the combination that's perfect: Webster paraphrasing the melodies with that massive tone filling the room like a beautiful fog, providing the perfect atmosphere for Tatum's fireworks and filigree.

[BruceH]

do any tatum live concert/club recordings exist?

Verve did an excellent 2CD collection called 20th Century Piano Genius. It's a collection of home recordings, before a small, attentive audience, done in Hollywood in 1950 and 1955. The sound is very good.

Yes, yes, yes. Great stuff.

The Tatum/Webster session is justifiably included on almost every top 100 best jazz recordings lists I've ever seen. There's something about the combination that's perfect: Webster paraphrasing the melodies with that massive tone filling the room like a beautiful fog, providing the perfect atmosphere for Tatum's fireworks and filigree.

Word.

[Kalo]

do any tatum live concert/club recordings exist?

Verve did an excellent 2CD collection called 20th Century Piano Genius. It's a collection of home recordings, before a small, attentive audience, done in Hollywood in 1950 and 1955. The sound is very good.

Yes, yes, yes. Great stuff.

The Tatum/Webster session is justifiably included on almost every top 100 best jazz recordings lists I've ever seen. There's something about the combination that's perfect: Webster paraphrasing the melodies with that massive tone filling the room like a beautiful fog, providing the perfect atmosphere for Tatum's fireworks and filigree.

Word.

Just one?

[Big Al]

Original lp notes:

Very cool! Thanks for posting that, Lon.

I guess it never occurred to me that these sessions were all originally released on Verve. I wonder what the original LP covers looked like?

[brownie]

One tune (My Ideal) from the Tatum/Webster album was featured on the soundtrack of Woody Allen's 1987 film 'September',

not Allen's best by far!

[king ubu]

I guess it never occurred to me that these sessions were all originally released on Verve. I wonder what the original LP covers looked like?

Here's one, but I have no idea if this is the original cover:

[Guest]

did tatum loose a lot of weight at that point- he looks a lot thinner than the older classic photos ive seen of him....

[Alexander Hawkins]

I don't *think* (could well be wrong) that's the original cover, which, IIRC, is composed of individual black and white photos of the quartet; the Tatum and Webster images being the largest.

Edit: not quite an accurate description...I'll post it if I can figure out how!

Edited February 13, 2006 by Red

[Allan Songer]

I guess it never occurred to me that these sessions were all originally released on Verve. I wonder what the original LP covers looked like?

Here's one, but I have no idea if this is the original cover:

Yep, that's the original cover. It was pressed originally with the "trumpeter" label but reissued with the same cover after the MGM takeover. You can get an original for about $60 on ebay in excellent condition if you're patient. The MGM copy can be had for about half of that.

[Alexander Hawkins]

Ah - I was clearly mistaken!

[Fer Urbina]

did tatum loose a lot of weight at that point- he looks a lot thinner than the older classic photos ive seen of him....

He died a couple of months after recording this (his last studio recording?), so that may be why he looked thinner.

Fantastic album, nice contrast between Tatum and Webster.

F

[Hot Ptah]

One tune (My Ideal) from the Tatum/Webster album was featured on the soundtrack of Woody Allen's 1987 film 'September',

not Allen's best by far!

I wondered if anyone else remembered that! I found September difficult to sit through to the end. I thought that the prominence of the Tatum/Webster recording was by far the best thing about the film.

[EKE BBB]

I don't have mine to hand - but if anyone knows offhand, is the GIITH material duplicated on the Tatum Chronological Classics?

No. The GIITH HighNote CD contains live recordings coming from Jerry Newman´s acetates. Definitely, Classics are not focused on this kind of material.

[Alexander Hawkins]

I don't have mine to hand - but if anyone knows offhand, is the GIITH material duplicated on the Tatum Chronological Classics?

No. The GIITH HighNote CD contains live recordings coming from Jerry Newman´s acetates. Definitely, Classics are not focused on this kind of material.

Thank you!