Guy Berger Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I am planning to pick up a box of this material and was wondering which one to pick up. I've heard really good stuff about the JSP set and am guessing that the Sony box is overpriced. Is the Sony box available on yourmusic? Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 So I did some research and the Sony box seems to be out of print. If it was overpriced before, it will be really overpriced now. I guess I will go with JSP. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 You can't really go wrong with either. I ultimately prefer the Sony box, and feel it's not really overpriced. . . . The sound is crisper and clearer to me, but others feel differently. There are individual Sony cds of the material. None of the new versions are available on yourmusic. The music should be enjoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) Some cuts on the JSP set are not on the Sony and vice-versa. Edited February 12, 2007 by medjuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 You can't really go wrong with either. I ultimately prefer the Sony box, and feel it's not really overpriced. . . . The sound is crisper and clearer to me, but others feel differently. There are individual Sony cds of the material. None of the new versions are available on yourmusic. The music should be enjoyed. I agree with Lon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelz777 Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I have and enjoy the JSP box and have no problems or issues with it. Plus, you'll be able to get a new set for less than what you'd probably pay for a used Sony set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Got the JSP (before the Sony came out). IIRCC, there are some innaccuracies in the recording data (if that's important to you). The set is very playable, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Larsen Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I saw the Sony set at J&R last weekend. I didn't notice the price. I got it (the Sony) through one of the record clubs years ago for pennies - BMG or YourMusic may still have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 No, neither BMG nor yourmusic has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) I have both boxes, but it's the JSP box for me. It was mastered by the late John R.T. Davies, and I like the sound on that one much better than on the Sony box, which, to my ears, is rather harsh-sounding. Edited February 12, 2007 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Skid Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I agonized over this for quite awhile, and made the only reasonable choice: buy both! As mentioned, there are some cuts unique to each set; plus, the booklet included in the Sony set is top notch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 As mentioned, there are some cuts unique to each set; plus, the booklet included in the Sony set is top notch. Reason for me to keep both that one and the JSP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkogre Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I am planning to pick up a box of this material and was wondering which one to pick up. I've heard really good stuff about the JSP set and am guessing that the Sony box is overpriced. Is the Sony box available on yourmusic? Guy I was in your same situation a couple months back and ended up choosing the Sony over the JSP set. I don't know if you care about the material being at the original pitch but I noticed some the JSP sample tracks on websites were out of tune but all of the sony material has been adjusted to the intended pitch. Also, the packaging is really beautiful on the sony set. Sony reissued this set in August (see this thread) and changed the packaging a bit I believe. I purchased the newer set and have no complaints with it but I remember reading some amazon reviews of the older set that people were having problems with the glue getting on the discs or something. If you sign up for google checkout (google's answer to paypal) before Feb. 15th you can get $10 off your purchase at CD universe so it would be about $25 plus shipping. Here's the link for google checkout. The google thing also works at buy.com. Anyway, I think that price is about as cheap as the JSP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 The JRT Davies transfers for JSP were done a couple of decades ago. If he'd done them later they would sound different. You can still find the Sony set online for reasonable prices if you search. Not that the Sony set is perfect, but it's pretty damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) I would get certain of the old Columbia LPs, which sounds best - I got rid of he Sony box when I llistened to Weatherbird, which has CEDAR distortion ( heard as a sort of gutteral croak, like someone claring their throat) right at the beginning - inexcusable - also, take a look at some of the pictures on the Sony box, which have also clearly been digitally restored and look ridiculous, overly-sharp and too much detail - digital madness - someone ought to be prosecuted for this stuff - Edited February 13, 2007 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 I have not purchased any of the Hot Five and Seven sides since they came out on the Masters of Jazz series! Will be waiting for the next installment of the 'Intégrale Louis Armstrong' from Frémeaux & Associés. Volume 2 came out recently and the mastering is excellent. Volume 3 should be out very soon and will tackle the electric recording sides from Pops. Volume 3 will have the Hot Fives. The Hot Sevens should be on volume 4! Each volume has 3 CDs! Frémeaux recently completed their Intégrale Django Reinhardt series (volumes 1 to 20)! Fantastic job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 I have not purchased any of the Hot Five and Seven sides since they came out on the Masters of Jazz series! Will be waiting for the next installment of the 'Intégrale Louis Armstrong' from Frémeaux & Associés. Volume 2 came out recently and the mastering is excellent. Volume 3 should be out very soon and will tackle the electric recording sides from Pops. Volume 3 will have the Hot Fives. The Hot Sevens should be on volume 4! Each volume has 3 CDs! Frémeaux recently completed their Intégrale Django Reinhardt series (volumes 1 to 20)! Fantastic job! Who mastered the Masters of Jazz series and the current Frémaux CDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 Who mastered the Masters of Jazz series and the current Frémaux CDs? The mastering of the MojJ Armstrong was done by various people including François Terrazoni, Charles Eddi, Studio Resonance, Christophe Henaut. It went up to vol. 8 (February 1926). Daniel Nevers who is in charge of the Intégrale Armstrong for Frémeaux was in charge of the Armstrong MofJ CDs. Only indication on transfers and mastering that I can find is: Pareles - Frémeaux & Associés. John R.T. Davies is among the people getting acknowledgements in a credit at the end of the liner notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen archer Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 I have not purchased any of the Hot Five and Seven sides since they came out on the Masters of Jazz series! Will be waiting for the next installment of the 'Intégrale Louis Armstrong' from Frémeaux & Associés. Volume 2 came out recently and the mastering is excellent. Volume 3 should be out very soon and will tackle the electric recording sides from Pops. Volume 3 will have the Hot Fives. The Hot Sevens should be on volume 4! Each volume has 3 CDs! Frémeaux recently completed their Intégrale Django Reinhardt series (volumes 1 to 20)! Fantastic job! I have the JSP set , so let me get this straight these new volumes have 3 cd's each . So the JSP and Sony box are not complete ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 I have the JSP set , so let me get this straight these new volumes have 3 cd's each . So the JSP and Sony box are not complete ? The Frémeaux sets have everything (with very few exceptions) that Armstrong recorded. With King Oliver, Fletcher Henderson, Clarence Williams, Bessie Smith and other singers. The JSP and Sony box did not have these! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Very nice piece from the Guardian. Worth reading the comments that follow. http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/sep/12/hot-five-seven-louis-armstrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Very nice piece from the Guardian. Worth reading the comments that follow. http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2011/sep/12/hot-five-seven-louis-armstrong A wonderful piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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