andybleaden Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 HI Anyone managed to track a copy of this down yet ? Had a good look around and now and again see it on ebay but I have resigned myself to the fact that it ain't coming out on cd for a while On another note I have Kenny Burrell Volume 3 on Blue Note TOCJ etc ...with my US copies of his other Blue Notes does that mean I am covered for both of the other japanese lps KBs Blues and Swingin ? I just looked a thte cds and it looks liek it when you line up the live set and Blue Spirit cds Any help appreciated especially on Freedom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 Look in your email over the next few hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 If we all email this as a request to Jerry at Mighty Quinn records he might issue it. I've heard him talking about it so.......send in the mails!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybleaden Posted September 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 thanks for any help at all on the freedom anyone can throw rectified the swingin versus KB's Blues and volume three thing..I think! GXF 3052 Kenny Burrell - K.B. Blues Hank Mobley (ts) Horace Silver (p) Kenny Burrell (g) Doug Watkins (b) Louis Hayes (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Hackensack, NJ, February 10, 1957 tk.3 Nica's Dream tk.6 D.B. Blues tk.7 K.B. Blues (alt. take) tk.8 K.B. Blues tk.9 Out for Blood ** also issued on BN (J) GXK 8154. Two of the above in italics are on KB Vol 3 GXF 3070 Kenny Burrell – Swingin' Frank Foster (ts) Tommy Flanagan (p) Kenny Burrell (g) Oscar Pettiford (b) Shadow Wilson (d) Audio-Video Studios, NYC, March 12, 1956 tk.42 My Heart Stood Still Louis Smith (tp) Tina Brooks, Junior Cook (ts) Duke Jordan (p) Kenny Burrell (g) Sam Jones (b) Art Blakey (d) Manhattan Towers, NYC, May 14, 1958 tk.1 I Never Knew Roland Hanna (p) Kenny Burrell (g) Ben Tucker (b) Art Blakey (d) "Five Spot Cafe", 1st set, NYC, August 25, 1959 tk.3 If You Could See Me Now Tina Brooks (ts) Bobby Timmons (p) replaces Hanna "Five Spot Cafe", 2nd set, NYC, August 25, 1959 tk.8 Swingin' Roland Hanna (p) replaces Brooks, Timmons "Five Spot Cafe", 3rd set, NYC, August 25, 1959 tk.14 Beef Stew Blues ** also issued on BN (J) GXK 8155. GXF 3057 Kenny Burrell – Freedom All of the above are on US copies of Blue Spirit/5 spot etc Seldon Powell (bars, fl) Hank Jones (p, org) Kenny Burrell (g) Milt Hinton (b) Osie Johnson (d) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, March 27, 1963 tk.13 The Good Life tk.21 Stairway to the Stars tk.27 Loie Powell plays (ts) Jones plays (p) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, April 2, 1963 tk.35 I Hadn't Anyone 'Til You Stanley Turrentine (ts) Herbie Hancock (p) Kenny Burrell (g) Ben Tucker (b) Bill English (d) Ray Barretto (cga) Rudy Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ, October 22, 1964 1449 tk.2 Love, Your Spell Is Everywhere 1450 tk.20 Freedom 1451 tk.25 Lonesome Road 1452 tk.31 G Minor Bash 1453 tk.42 K Twist ** also issued on BN (J) GXK 8170. I think that K twist is on Midnight Blue RVG Loie was on a best of Kenny Burrell comp So in all there are still a few tracks from KB's Blues and Freedom not out anywhere Which is an absolutley fliggin disgwace! We insist Freedom ...Now! Now there is a catchy tune! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybleaden Posted September 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 I have found the covers for the KB Blues and the Swingin for people who ain't seen em yet these courtesy of Gokudo and the facts above thanks to jazz discography project Enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted October 9, 2005 Report Share Posted October 9, 2005 All the tracks from the first two CDs were on US CDs as bonus tracks over the years, but the "Freedom" tracks still a wait reissue - I can't understand why Cuscuna never did this as a Connoisseur. It was him who dug this up for a Japanese LP release, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinlps Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 If anyone absolutely has to have Swingin' on vinyl, Paris Jazz Corner has the "original" Japanese release for $48. Any one know if it any of these sessions were available as LT "originals?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Any one know if it any of these sessions were available as LT "originals?" ← None of the above were LT's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 All the tracks from the first two CDs were on US CDs as bonus tracks over the years, but the "Freedom" tracks still a wait reissue - I can't understand why Cuscuna never did this as a Connoisseur. It was him who dug this up for a Japanese LP release, after all. ← That's my take also on this confusing (to me) set of recordings. Thanks for what I believe is a correct clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Well, as Cuscuna aptly remarked, some sessions look good on paper but the results were not as convincing. Like the leftovers released on the "Lost Sessions" Connoisseur CD. And sometimes so many things were happening that a session, especially if it did not yield enough material for a whole LP, was left in the can in favor of a newer one. Alfred Lion reportedly was very critical. In the case of Burrell - he recorded for Blue Note, Kapp Verve, Prestige and Cadet during those years (1963-66) which makes me wonder if there were any contract conflicts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinlps Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 None of the above were LT's. ← Thanks Jim. I checked my spreadsheets at about the same time and found the same. Would anyone consider these essential KB sessions or strictly for hard core KB fans? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 [ Would anyone consider these essential KB sessions or strictly for hard core KB fans? ← I have 'Freedom' and 'K.B. Blues' and like them quite a lot. The 'K.B. Blues' is excellent with a terrific lineup. 'Freedom' is more of a mixed bag. Two good sessions, one of them with Seldon Powell, one of my favorite underrated saxophone players! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 I have found the covers for the KB Blues and the Swingin for people who ain't seen em yet these courtesy of Gokudo and the facts above thanks to jazz discography project Enjoy ← The cover of the 'K.B. Blues' I have looks different. It has a dark blue cover with 'K.B. Blues' and Kenny burrell in large yellowish-brown Reid Miles-type letters. There is also a black/white photo of KB in,serted. Cover design by Toshikazu Tanaka! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 GXK 8154 I always thought the other one was the earlier issue, but I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 GXK 8154 I always thought the other one was the earlier issue, but I'm not sure. ← Yes, Jim. That one! Always assumed this was the original cover. Bought the Japanese vinyl shortly after it was released, back in 1979! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 (edited) Would anyone consider these essential KB sessions or strictly for hard core KB fans? ← In my opinion, it's probably somewhere in-between. As Brownie suggests, "Freedom" being a mixed bag (two separate sessions, and with a slightly funkier feel) might be generally less essential to hard bop fans, but then again it's high quality stuff. In fact shares some similarity to the "Midnight Blue" date, which has kind of become a default "classic" (I dig M.B. too, but I tend to think it might be slightly overhyped/overrated). "Swingin'" was a nice collection of 50's hard bop material from three different sessions, but as Mike said it's all been out as bonus material on different CD's. "K.B. Blues" (all three of these, in fact) might have achieved a higher reputation if it had been more widely distributed. Edited October 10, 2005 by Jim R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Brownie, one thing that may have influenced my thinking (perhaps subconsciously) regarding the two issues of K.B. Blues is that the photo of Burrell on the cover you have was taken later (mid-60's or after) than the period in which the music was recorded. At any rate, there may not have been much of a time difference between the two issues. I'm sure there are other examples of Japanese issues with different covers which were issued within a fairly short time span (GXF vs GXK; King vs Toshiba ? ... my memory of all this is beginning to fail. I sold most of my vinyl, and it's been 25 years since these were issued, after all ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 The complete K.B. Blues LP was reissued as part of the Introducing Kenny Burrell Connoisseur twofer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 Those Kenny Burrell Blue Note sessions are one more opportunity to discuss reissue criteria. The first Blue Note LP was all from one session, but Vol. 2 had two more tracks from that plus an uncomplete earlier session that had probably intended for 10" Lp release, and a track from a Kenny Dorham live session. etc. etc. Those Japanese CDs reissued the LPs as they were instead of completing sessions which was Cuscuna's way with the US reissues. I was glad when that twofer finally gave us the complete sessions on one disc. The other leftovers had been added to the respective CD counterparts. Sound was okay. So what's the use of continuing that scattered release pattern of those Japanese CDs only to keep old LP compilations intact while wasting a lot of CD playing capacity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted October 10, 2005 Report Share Posted October 10, 2005 (edited) The complete K.B. Blues LP was reissued as part of the Introducing Kenny Burrell Connoisseur twofer. ← Not sure if that's a counter to my point, but when I said ""K.B. Blues" (all three of these, in fact) might have achieved a higher reputation if it had been more widely distributed.", I was suggesting that if the material had been widely distributed (released in the U.S., for starters) at an earlier date (not necessarily approaching the original recording dates, but even at the time they were released in Japan, circa 1980), these albums would have at least had a better chance to compete for status as "essentials" or "classics" in the Burrell discography. BTW, I'm just accepting their existence as album packages and commenting based on that fact. I see your point about the scattered and disorganized manner of the releases. Edited October 10, 2005 by Jim R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with the Golden Arm Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 FWIW (.99 I guess) the cut "Freedom" is now on iTunes via the KB 'Artist Selects' series. Stan and deliver, baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Unless I'm mistaken, there are also a couple of tracks ("Loie" and "Love your spell is everywhere") from FREEDOM on this CD: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybleaden Posted October 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Yeah I had that Getting confusing as the last few Blue Notes are being split up on several reissues but I think its get alful hard when they change the covers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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