“Ruby Braff and his New England Songbirds Volume 2,” Arbors Jazz cd

I listened to the albums with George for years before I moved on to the Quintet with Wayne. I love those albums. . . I always will.

He filled a need and initially was welcome. Miles heard the trio misxing it up behind him and said, hey, why don't you do that with me? They said, oh, you want that? Ok! By the time it was over, I've heard that Herbie and Tony were grumbling about Coleman not pushing anything past what he did. Apparently Miles agreed, because when Wayne came available, Miles snatched him right up! I enjoy the band with George, but it is very pleasant, but just a little predictable. That's not a dis on George either, just...band dynamics.

Freddie Hubbard “First Light” CTI Supreme Blu-Spec cd

Yes, exactly.  I love his playing much later on (in the later 70s and early 80's), and he's a good musician, but fit and chemistry were everything for this group and Coleman's playing here is....... nice and pleasant.  Not challenging.